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Serious Theological Problem(s) at PTS???

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Didn’t wanna hijak the Pentecostal Seminary thread, so I started a new thread on this specific topic.In the Pentecostal Seminary thread, Charlie Earl wrote,

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  1. One of things that I hear repeatedly is that there is an attempt to feminize God. You mean like a hen gathering her chicks or a nursing mother? There is a difference in speaking of an all encompassing God who is characterized to include both the love of a father and a mother, as appose to saying that God is a woman and using a female pronoun.In a post about the COGOP and PTS agreement, the president of the PTS, Dr. Vest, said: the seminary offers the chance for COGOP members to learn from instructors in the Wesleyan Pentecostal tradition. I don’t remember being taught about a mommy God in my studies as a Wesleyan Pentecostal.You can’t have it both ways, if your institution is going to be relevant, you have to study many traditions and have a facility that are from diverse backgrounds and schools. If you want the PTS to simply reinforce the company line and only have good Church of God instructors who went to Lee U. and PTS before joining the facility, you will surly get conformity. I don’t know that conformity and relevance live in the same institution.Mat

  2. Paul Conn teaches there often. I, for one, am proud to have him represent Lee and the Church of God________________

  3. Paul Conn teaches there often. I, for one, am proud to have him represent Lee and the Church of God. Kyle,Just so you know, I was making the point that having leadership/facility from a range of institutions is a good thing.

  4. Paul Conn teaches there often. I, for one, am proud to have him represent Lee and the Church of God. Kyle,Just so you know, I was making the point that having leadership/facility from a range of institutions is a good thing. Mat ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

  5. Never heard such a thing in all ma life. So is God a Male? Is there a necessity in heaven for Male and Female? Do spirits have gender?Now I am asking these questions because I have no idea if there are solid theories. I have always pictured God as a Male Figure, maybe because of the paintings of old depict a snow bearded old man. Like Father Time.But to be honest, I do not know. Does anyone? WE all know the term mankind covers both male and female, doesn’t it________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

  6. I earned my M.Div from PTS in 2004. I loved it. Here is the reality – the school – like any good school, attempts to push people out of their intellectual comfort zones so that they are critically thinking. Some people are uncomfortable with that. But that does not mean that the school is errant.Regarding feminizing God: in my experience the school requires gender neutral language in papers, explores liberation theology (including feminist liberation theology), and seeks to deconstruct idolatrous images that view God as a white male. I personally do not consider that feminizing God, but some might see it that way.

  7. What? First someone is saying God is a female and now they are teaching God is not white. Come on man, we got to close the place down.Mat

  8. I’ll step away from my normal meme and/or tongue in cheek responses to be serious for just a moment. It’s tough, but i’ll try. Yes, I experienced some of what people are saying on here during my time at PTS.However, the womanizing part at the school (if thats what you want to call it) is extremely low, in my opinion, compared to any other seminary out there.The same thing could be said about the sermons of many of our pastors in the CoG.

  9. So, with all do respect, I think one of the reasons Acts-Celebrate might be dying the slow death the the other thread mentions is in part due to statements like UncleJD’s.Too many times I have seen people respond to nuanced situations with simplistic answers. That is a game that people want to increasingly avoid. To not understand the goals of a seminary, to not understand the currant theological discussions that a seminary graduate should be able to engage in, and to denounce PTS as having the glory departed is not only an affront to PTS, but it is an affront to dialogue and discourse.