Charles, just wondering how they plan to help the many small churches, established for a long time, but through neglect of various types, are barely keeping the doors open?
Ole time holiness “can be” legalism if the thought is that they, not Christ, are what makes us holy.
They are not our way and means of salvation (thinking that is what makes it legalistic).
Ole time holiness believers, true believers, I admire.
But most I have met who say they are don’t live it consistently.
Most I have met use it to beat others into submission and lord over them.
One pastor’s wife I knew said she had a conviction about wearing pants. I showed up invited at the house one day and she was in blue jeans. When we got ready for the group to go out and eat she had to go change into a Jean skirt.
Is that having a conviction?
Is that ole time holiness?
Interesting but probably worth a shot as most state leaders in the
COG have little practice in identifying and training church planters.
Charles, just wondering how they plan to help the many small churches, established for a long time, but through neglect of various types, are barely keeping the doors open?
The smaller churches are not a problem as long as they report tithes of tithes at end of month
What is your point, Jim?
Yes, so very true and I must say, I do not like it.
WOW! I don’t know what to say. I am speechless, haha
Sad!
It’s a sad day when “genuine” religion is called “old fashion” and Bible Holiness is called “legalism” .
Ole time holiness “can be” legalism if the thought is that they, not Christ, are what makes us holy.
They are not our way and means of salvation (thinking that is what makes it legalistic).
Ole time holiness believers, true believers, I admire.
But most I have met who say they are don’t live it consistently.
Most I have met use it to beat others into submission and lord over them.
One pastor’s wife I knew said she had a conviction about wearing pants. I showed up invited at the house one day and she was in blue jeans. When we got ready for the group to go out and eat she had to go change into a Jean skirt.
Is that having a conviction?
Is that ole time holiness?
That is legalism.
she looks Amish
She is Amish
be savec..believe ….receive
that’s right, you have to receive (it)?
What do you receive?
Be baptized in the Holy Ghost and yield as HE gives the utterance.
By the way you may receive “it” The Baptism, but you receive “Him” The Holy Ghost the Third Person of the God-Head.
You must first be Saved then Sanctified before you can ever receive the Holy Ghost and then you must believe and receive….. It’s a gift
Saved and Sanctified:)