Both, it is near impossible to write about something you love and are an integral art of and not have the love show.In My humble opinion….. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
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Both, it is near impossible to write about something you love and are an integral art of and not have the love show.In My humble opinion….. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Few takers on this question, what do you think OTCP? Was it an objective historical document?
hagiographic?
OK I admit there are many on Acts with a much better education than I.But in my 66 years and I have never seen this word (hagiographic) before. I’m not even going to look it up because if I made it this far without the word, I think I can finish without it________________Recorded Sermons @ http://www.pastorwiley.com
He did revise it several times – admitting in a class I was enrolled in – that the first version was more harsh toward Tomlinson than was fair.And used it as a teaching point about writing and what to watch out for…especially if you are close to a situation – it clouds your judgment________________
Written history is often exaggerated or embellished to some degree. Why? Because, when we put history to paper we are adding
Larry, you can do it too. Just install a good thesaurus on your word processor.
I CERTAINLY agree there QW, and AT TIMES it is impossible for me to appear ‘stupidier’ than I really am. I had never heard nor read the word either, and I would bet I murdered the pronunciation with my NC country vocabulary. I do agree that Bro. Conn probably did paint the founding fathers and others in more vivid colors. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
This is only the second time I have seen the word hagiography (in previous post, hagiographic,sic) used in a sentence. The first time was in a book review referring to, if I remember right, LAMA as well. The review was of the book Quest to Restore God’s House – A Theological History of the Church of God (Cleveland, Tennessee): Volume I, 1886-1923, R.G. Spurling to A.J. Tomlinson, Formation-Transformation-Reformation, which was published by CPT Press in Cleveland, TN. I had to look the word up, but I thought it was a correct usage.My first read of LAMA, a First Edition (autographed) copy, was about 30 years ago. As a COGOP member and minister with a deep family history in the movement I was most interested in the events leading up the 1923 split and the COG’s take on it, along with their reasoning for the court cases/lawsuits that followed.Synod makes some good points about the organization date of the denomination – COGOP claims June 13, 1903 when AJT joined the Holiness Church at Camp Creek (with the understanding it was the Church of God of the Bible). COG goes back to the Christian Union and folds in the Shearer School House Revival. However, it was the growth after AJT joined and became pastor of the church that triggered the organization at the First Assembly in 1906.AJT’s role in the development of the church from 1903to 1923 is a subject of much debate, but when compared to the movement prior to 1903 it is monumental in scope. As I remember, LAMA, paints AJT as being authoritarian in his leadership and that he took money from starving pastors, widows and orphans. So that’s what the split of 1923 was about and why the COG had to take AJT to court so often. Did AJT steal church money for himself? To me this is the most troubling accusation that still lingers in COG culture today. I believe this is an untruth (using a nicer word here) that has been passed and taught from generation to generation in the COG. What is not discussed so much was the effect of AJT’s views on race and full participation in the church as a causal factor. Neither, was his more conservative views on divorce and remarriage addressed or his understanding of the nature of the church. I feel this leaves some big holes in the narrative of what happened. There is much I could point to, the division that has resulted, the personal cost to the Tomlinson family, the spiritual cost to the COG. However, let me ask this question, do your own scholars have the liberty to explore any other version of COG history or are they bound by the company line as found in LAMA? Some have said to me the ghost of AJT still haunts the history of the COG. Why would they say that?
There’s a lesson in that for every pastor________________
I find there is an excitement and passion in the writing style of Like A Mighty Army while in direct contradiction is found in Where Saints Have Trod why I find the style dry and lifeless.Just my opinion________________
OTCP opened a very good discussion here.
I appreciate reading the comments of folk that are much more informed than I. I think Mat’s contribution from another view point is also very informative.Thanks OTCP, this is a good one.. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
I think the reasoning for taking AJT to court was to recover the funds he was said to have taken. Maybe there should be a study done on the court documents and the judge’s rulings. It might be an interesting take on what happened. I was under the impression, from some past Lee students who were COGOP and going by what some staff have said at Lee (joking, maybe) that it was taught for some time that AJT took church money for himself.Are you saying it has never been taught at Lee or was not part of the the culture there? Maybe I heard wrong.
Re: As a writing teacher…
Rough is right, Conn utilizes a very engaging writing style in LAMA: easy to read; an engaging and colorful vocabulary; an overall–quite often subjective–interesting volume. That said, I do believe LAMA to be somewhat romanticized and embellished. This is not a negative toward Conn, it is simply his writing approach