We have lived mobile for about 20 years. My wife is a stickler for recorded tithe, she has tithed since 12 years old. Each month she writes a check for tithe/missions and offerings and sends it back to our church of membership in , NC.Since we are now homeowners, 3 months now (still not moved in, living in the back yard! LOL), we have found a church we like. We are thinking of attending there regularly. We will still travel, but I feel a little strange not supporting a church we attend. (Of course we give when offerings are received). The subject has not come up with my wife, but I know it will. As a Pastor how do you feel about gypsy members (Maybe 3 months at a time separated by a month or two)? ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
I think a lot of pastors wouldn’t mind your sending your tithes to the churches they pastor. That’s just a wild guess________________
I have a suggestion: Let her send her tithe off her income to her home church and you pay off your income to the new church. That is one suggestion.
Thanks LOG. so very much for the suggestions. Her feelings are always considered, she is of the old school also, it will be an agreement what ever we do.Once for two years when we were attending a Florida Church most of the winter, we paid tithe to the church we attended then back to our home church in the summer. I wrote both pastors to explain what we had decided to do. The Florida pastor answered immediately saying it was not necessary, we were welcome anytime with or without out tithe. I never heard from our home church pastor. OUCH. So we went on with our plans. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
What you’re suggesting is that Cojak should make the decision and that Mrs. Cojak should go along with it. Really, there is no scriptural reason for this decision to fall only to the husband or even ultimately to the husband.
What you’re suggesting is that Cojak should make the decision and that Mrs. Cojak should go along with it. Really, there is no scriptural reason for this decision to fall only to the husband or even ultimately to the husband.The priest of their house is Jesus and there is no other mediator between God and humankind. Mrs. Cojak will answer for her own conscience as Cojak will answer for his. Sure there is Bonnie. The husband is the head of the wife. The wife is told to submit to her husband. Peter implied a wife’s submission to her husband included obedience. In the Old Testament, even a wife’s vows to God (and they vowed material possessions, like sacrificing a lamb) were subject to the husband’s decision. He could cancel the vow. He could do so without guilt if he did it the day he heard it. If he changed his mind about it later, and they didn’t fulfill the vow, he was guilty of it and she wasn’t.I’m still a bit surprised at the liberalism among COG folks on this issue________________
No, there isn’t Link unless you think we are still under Old Testament laws. No, Mrs. Cojak is not going to answer to God for anyone’s decisions but her own. The man being head of wife doesn’t mean he makes her decisions for her. Submission goes both ways since love requires submission. The husband is not given authority to be a wife’s conscience.Your view is more in line with the Greek philosophers than with the whole counsel of scripture. Aristotle compared husband and wife to soul and body, with husband being the soul that commanded the physical body. He claimed that equality of the two or rule of the inferior [i.e. the wife] is always hurtful.But not to get too far afield, I think if you were to query the poster who started this thread, he will probably acknowledge that is marriage has become more egalitarian over time as well as better over time.
New Testament instructions on marriage aren’t egalitarian or American. The Old Testament is from God. Can we say the same thing about American culture?If it were me, in my marriage, if my wife had money coming in from her own job and I had money from mine, it would make sense to me for her to give the way she wanted to in that case and for me to give where I wanted to. I wouldn’t mind if she wasn’t giving to someone I considered really flaky or in error. It is more important that giving be done with cheerfulness. But I wouldn’t condemn husbands for handling it differently.
I havw a few like you & I enjoy when they are with us & I enjoy when they give.However I also know they enjoy giving when they’re the road & it doesn’t bother me.I think it’s all a matter of personal sacrifice & how you feel the Lord leading you to give. I had one family who had left & moved away & for several years they kept giving to us & I have to admit it was needed a few times ________________Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!Email me at: [email protected] planters are focused on just one thing …introducing people to Jesus!
Thanks Dean, I appreciate the comment. YES, there are times we feel lead to ‘GIVE’ at some churches we visit. Our ‘local pastor’ at a remote RV park, was an Alliance pastor, ALWAYS before every offering advised folks to remember to support their home church FIRST, then give there. I find many folk with our dilemma. It is never a problem when we are constantly traveling, just when we try to set some roots hundreds of miles from our place of membership________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Link, your attitude has been influenced more than you know by Greek thought.I recommend that you read
Cojak, to answer your question about where you should give, I don’t feel wise enough to advise you. I’m sure you and Mrs. Cojak will come up with a reasonable solution.
Thanks Bonnie, We are not at a discussion point as of now, but I know if we attend at the same church down here, this one she really likes, the subject will come up.We may do as we did once, pay a half year in Florida and a half year in NC.Or by the month, depending on which church we attend the most.Of course we were taught to pay where the membership is, we sure don’t want to rejoin every 6 months. LOLIf we would do that, the way some church books are managed, the church would gain two new members every 6 months. LO________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Cojak, where do you get fed? I’m sure you would not go to the Huddle House and eat then go across the street to the Waffle House to pay your bill.I believe strongly in supporting your local church but is that still your local church or is that where your membership is?I think I know you well enough to know you will do the right thing. Blessings my friend________________Recorded Sermons @ http://www.pastorwiley.com
Very good points my friend. Thanks. That is my dilemma, ours is not a normal lifestyle and probably attend our HOME church less than 10-12 times a year, three months at most.We attended Sanford COG today and was truly blessed. Our oldest son attended and I was thrilled to see him blessed. Yes, there is the point of being fed! WE think of you often! ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Many years ago I planted a church in the city we now live in. Our pianist was a 15 year old girl named Becky.I came back home in 2001. Today I preached at a church near us. I sent Becky a FB PM and invited her to church and she came. As I understand it Becky rarely attends church. At the end of the service I felt led to call Becky for prayer. The Lord really moved on her. She began to shake and fell in the floor. I did not push her, in fact I was not even touching her when she fell. Her mother, a dear Christian lady was there. I asked mom how long has it been since she saw Becky move in the Spirit like that, she replied, many years. For the record I don’t promote falling but if that is what happens then so be it. I’m not going to tell them not to fall nor am I going to help them fall. This family was a real blessing to me when I started pastoring. It sure was good to see them again and so see Becky get her blessing.Edited: Sorry Cojak, this should have been under a new thread________________Recorded Sermons @ http://www.pastorwiley.com
Link, your attitude has been influenced more than you know by Greek thought.I recommend that you read
Thanks man, I appreciate the comment. It made me feel good. I organized one church and remember some of the people well. I had two young sweet piano players. I see them occasionally and if I was near and speaking I would love to see them. Lot of history there.Thank God she received a real blessing. There is something about those days, when remembered can bless your heart!AGAIN THANKS!BTW, your brother has been busy ‘this time being a blessing’ again, new book in about a month.________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
But apparently some of us are having a devil of a time interpreting them.Again, I recommend Bristow’s book to you. I think it would help you understand some things.Your understanding of submission is that it is only required of someone who is lower in a hierarchy. I’m telling you that the Bible doesn’t demand a hierarchy in marriage with a husband being over the wife.I also recommend, as has been recommended before on Acts, this book:www.amazon.com/Discovering-Biblical-Equality-Complementarity-Hierarchy/dp/0830828346/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488287727&sr=8-1