He seems to have a different position on the issue from Benny Hinn and a lot of other preachers. We often sing songs welcoming the Holy Spirit or asking Him to come. Of course, we are talking about an awareness of His presence or as is often said we are speaking of His manifest presence. But I think that explanation at least once in a while would be helpful for the new Christians or even the unsaved, .
I got into a discussion a few weeks ago with someone who was against Pentecostals and against praying to the Holy Spirit. He thought Pentecostals asked the Holy Spirit to baptize them, or something along those lines, and prayed to the Spirit to do that.I agreed with him that the Bible doesn’t teach us to pray to the Holy Spirit. It teaches prayer to the Father in Jesus’ name. Jesus baptizes with the Spirit. The Father gives the Holy Ghost to them Who ask Him.’Come, Holy Spirit’ was something they said in the Vineyard. I’ve heard Charismatic and Third Wave songs addressed to the Spirit.This is another one of those issues that deals with how we treat the Bible. If the Bible doesn’t teach something, is it forbidden.Is it wrong to pray to the Holy Spirit? Is it inappropriate to direct prayers to Jesus rather than to the Father in His name? I’ll start another thread________________
amusing and ironic…that we gather in what we call God’s house, or temple, then invite Him to the service.If it is indeed His house/temple, then He is already present and it is He who plays host and invites us into His presence.Perhaps our on preparation to enter God’s house is much more important than waiting for a jump-start from the Praise & Worship team, a choir, or a cheerleader behind the pulpit________________God-HonoringChrist-CenteredBible-BasedSpirit-Led
Well said. I know nothing of RB myself, but do agree with the statement: He would never make His redeeming work depend on our emotional state, ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Re: A quote from Reinhard Bonkke on the presence of God.
He seems to have a different position on the issue from Benny Hinn and a lot of other preachers. We often sing songs welcoming the Holy Spirit or asking Him to come. Of course, we are talking about an awareness of His presence or as is often said we are speaking of His manifest presence. But I think that explanation at least once in a while would be helpful for the new Christians or even the unsaved, .
I got into a discussion a few weeks ago with someone who was against Pentecostals and against praying to the Holy Spirit. He thought Pentecostals asked the Holy Spirit to baptize them, or something along those lines, and prayed to the Spirit to do that.I agreed with him that the Bible doesn’t teach us to pray to the Holy Spirit. It teaches prayer to the Father in Jesus’ name. Jesus baptizes with the Spirit. The Father gives the Holy Ghost to them Who ask Him.’Come, Holy Spirit’ was something they said in the Vineyard. I’ve heard Charismatic and Third Wave songs addressed to the Spirit.This is another one of those issues that deals with how we treat the Bible. If the Bible doesn’t teach something, is it forbidden.Is it wrong to pray to the Holy Spirit? Is it inappropriate to direct prayers to Jesus rather than to the Father in His name? I’ll start another thread________________
I have found it both…
amusing and ironic…that we gather in what we call God’s house, or temple, then invite Him to the service.If it is indeed His house/temple, then He is already present and it is He who plays host and invites us into His presence.Perhaps our on preparation to enter God’s house is much more important than waiting for a jump-start from the Praise & Worship team, a choir, or a cheerleader behind the pulpit________________God-HonoringChrist-CenteredBible-BasedSpirit-Led
Well said. I know nothing of RB myself, but do agree with the statement: He would never make His redeeming work depend on our emotional state, ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/