vimeo.com/209478127When I saw that Tim Hill would be giving a special message last night, I was assuming it would be some sort of announcement.What are your thoughts on what he said________________[Jesus] will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. – Nicene Creed
There was an email from Brother Wallace to his staff (???) reported here where Bro Wallace stated something about the system being the obstacle to a continued relationship. I recall it being stated that ‘system’ was in bold type.If this is the same video I watched, which was shared on FB by Stan Holder, Bro Hill talks quite a bit about the system. I found Bro Hill’s comments to be accurate and understandable.If the system is what we have agreed together would be the mechanics of the government of the COG, then what it produces belongs to us, good or bad. If some men in leadership do things outside the system, and the system doesn’t hold them to account, then that is a failure of both the man, and the system.
Very well spoken. First of all I was able to hear and UNDERSTAND him. Seems very wise. But we ALL know about the SYSTEM and it can be defined (for each of us for us). The system is the ‘Ruling Class’ or LEVEL. NBF stated it simply in another post comment, and as the GO said in clear and concise wording A SYSTEM exists in every walk of life.We learn to live with it, from childhood to adulthood. Some fight the system and win, but SOON become part of the system.As a youngster in a Cotton Mill town I saw a young insurance salesman run for mayor and win. For the first time in the history of that town someone OUTSIDE the system ‘bucked the System’ and WON. It wasn’t long until he was sucked into the system, backed by the very folk he ‘fought’, he was elected to the State Congress. It wasn’t long until he was part and parcel of the SYSTEM. YEP there is always a system and it usually wins. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
I would also like to mention an observation of my own.In that video we hear Bro Hill refer to his calling at age 17. Bro Wallace often refers to his calling, I think also at 17.I will, on occasion, ask a minister to tell me about the detail of when he knew he was called. I know my dad’s story. I know a few others.Now I ask all you ministers, what was YOUR calling? What work do you think God expected you to do?I am willing to bet it is the work you began to do when you answered that call.If someone then had offered you a job selling life insurance, car salesman, delivering packages for UPS, building tires at the Goodyear factory… you would not have even considered it.Why not?So why then is it so easy to stop doing what you began doing and become a State Overseer, or some job at headquarters?Some of our very best at doing exactly what they were called to do, have stopped doing it.Now if you turn this around on me, and ask me, Then how should we fill these jobs that are necessary?, I am afraid I will have to answer, I don’t know.
Very well put comment BB. We have also had men return to their ‘heart’s call’ after a detour in administration.along the same line. I think the founders of this country did not foresee ‘professional Politicians’. I think as a whole they saw men/women take a detour into politics for a few months than back to their ‘occupations or trades’.We have produced professional Administrators and justified the same. Good, bad or indifferent the ‘System’ has produced this.I remember growing up seeing boys daddy’s going out to be overseers, then returning to pastor. We were just PK’s________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
One can always hope, But it is basically impossible to eliminate all signs of PREFERENTIAL treatment in a local or national church or businesses. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
A very good word from Tim Hill.
I haven’t seen the whole video but did skim through the written version. I was kind of surprised to see the comments about the system & wondered how many people were aware of the connection with KW’s comments.Interesting________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name
Very well put comment BB. We have also had men return to their ‘heart’s call’ after a detour in administration.along the same line. I think the founders of this country did not foresee ‘professional Politicians’. I think as a whole they saw men/women take a detour into politics for a few months than back to their ‘occupations or trades’.We have produced professional Administrators and justified the same. Good, bad or indifferent the ‘System’ has produced this.I remember growing up seeing boys daddy’s going out to be overseers, then returning to pastor. We were just PK’s. I think some ministers that go into administration/leadership positions are still following the call of God on their lives. Some people are gifted to lead, organize, and administrate as well as preach. Isn’t administration (along with helps and others) one of the giftings spoken of in 1 Corinthians 12?IMHO, it’s important to have godly, wise ministers in leadership positions who have the experience to guide others and make administrative decisions and suggestions. I don’t think that is necessarily a bad thing. I also think that sometimes the purpose of our calling can be diverse during different seasons in our lives. If a person is truly called, he will not be able to get away from that calling no matter what he’s doing________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name
This is true and a very important statement________________[Jesus] will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. – Nicene Creed
Thanks, Carolyn, for mentioning the written version. I like having it written out–then I can go through at my own pace and also review more easily.Here is the link:www.faithnews.cc/?p=24502I, too, was listening to this in context of the comment that Kevin Wallace was reported to have made: We feel God is separating us and the thing He has called us to do from the
That’s why I say there is more to it. They both could have said in two minutes what they said, instead both took several minutes to spin it.
In one video the General Overseer pastored the Church of God and recaptured the conversation. Do one doubts the whole thing was likely prompted by the earlier remarks made about systems’ in KW’s own video. That doesn’t take rocket science. He said it with analogy yet precision. He said what everyone knows and it was good to hear a leader admit it. Systems exist, but they exist everywhere. Someone had to say something. Someone had to show a steady hand and strong leadership. Bishop Hill did that. He took his time, yes.