My. 4:40. When the sun was sitting, all those who had any that were sick with various diseases brought them to Him; and He laid His hands on every one if them and healed them.Not one mention of Jesus saying, not you Jack it is not my will to heal you. No, He laid hands on every one if them and healed them. Now the big question is settled________________Recorded Sermons @ www.pastorwiley.com
Lu.5 a man with leprosy came to Jesus and said, if you are willing you can make me clean. Jesus said I am willing. There is no record of Jesus ever saying I am not willing________________Recorded Sermons @ http://www.pastorwiley.com
________________I’m not saved because I’m good. I’m saved because He’s good!My website: http://www.bradfreeman.comMy blog: bradcfreeman.tumblr.com/
Ask any hospital chaplain if God ever uses sickness to the glory of God and come back here and report your findings. I was very blessed in the summer of 1995 to be introduced to Joni Eareckson Tada by a mutual friend. At the time, I held to WoF teachings on health due to those who were very influential in my life. Listening to her testimony and actually examining the scriptures for myself with no WoF bias I changed my views. Nobody wants to be sick, especially with some chronic or degenerative disease. When I am ill I pray but I also seek medical help. But to say God always heals unless there is lack of faith is absurd. And it robs people of the redemptive power of their suffering. Sometimes God uses someone’s infirmity for a greater purpose (i.e Joni ET and the Apostle Paul in Galatians 4:13-14
What you say is very true, and I agree.I also agree that as far as I remember Jesus did heal all that came to him while he walked on Earth.I am a firm believer that there is Oceans of difference in one walking to Jesus personally and seeking healing. And praying here on earth with the Holy Spirit near BUT NOT SEEN!I cannot argue my point nor explain ‘my heart’ But 2000 years have elapsed, knowledge and the deep wisdom of the Sages is not apparent. What has happened? I have no idea, but I do know it has been a long time since I have witnessed a ‘physical miracle’ in today’s church. If I hear of a miracle it is in the next state or in an obscure country.Something has changed. Is it us? Even in my youth I remember the great ‘healing revivals’, I knew a couple folk who were taken out of their Wheel chairs, they staggered, but walked. The Evangelist said they needed time to learn to walk again. Well after the evangelist left town, the guys were back in the wheel chairs. I was only a kid, but I knew the story of the man who could not walk and when Peter said DO IT, he came up running and walking, he did not need time to learn to walk.I know everyone is not healed today, that is apparent. But I do read that all who came to Jesus were healed. Confusing? certainly. Make me lose faith? Not again. I’m good. I believe and at times tremble because I do not KNOW a lot, but I know He loves me. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
For the record I am not into the WOF teaching. They say Abraham called things that are not as they are. Rom.4:17 clearly says, even GOD who called things that as tho they were________________Recorded Sermons @ http://www.pastorwiley.com
God works all things together for our good. He can turn bad situations into good outcomes. But it’s Christ’s suffering that has redemptive power, not ours. He is the Good Tree that cannot bear bad fruit.Jesus showed us the Father and healed all who believed________________I’m not saved because I’m good. I’m saved because He’s good!My website: http://www.bradfreeman.comMy blog: bradcfreeman.tumblr.com/
So faith wasn’t required to be healed during this time. Is that right?Anyone that came – whether they had some unbelief in their heart or not – was healed. ALL of them were healed.Just want to make sure that is your position – because when Brad gave the thumbs up it confused me – as he always gives an out that Jesus pulls back at the least bit of unbelief. With a crowd of this size – that could have easily been 5 or 10 thousand – many of them were there just because there was a crowd and thought – why not________________
Just wanting to know if 10,000 folks got prayed for – and everyone – ALL – was/were healed – were any healed by Jesus that didn’t have faith?Just want to be clear what we are saying.At other times, the folks that Jesus healed that were dead – I would say none of them exercised any faith – but they were healed.So – to go on record – of the ALL that were healed – did any of them lack faith – but were healed anyway – because that is what Jesus – was planning/willing to do that day.Just want to know what the belief is________________
Why did Jesus only heal the one man at the pool of Bethesda and leave the rest to the lottery of being the first one in the water?
I want to know about the instance where he healed ALL.Are we to believe all 10,000 had more faith than all but one poor soul at the pool of Bethesda?I want to know what the guy praying has to do with it.Because if we could nullify any prayers from others – why would you ever call for the elders of the church to pray?Why would anyone ever pray for someone else if it would simply be canceled by the person being prayed for?Seems like any call to pray for others was a judgment error by Jesus and the disciples since it made no difference to whether the folks were healed or not – as the person with unbelief holds complete veto power over any healing________________
In practical terms, what does that mean?
I did ask in this thread.Hope he answers________________
I did ask in this thread.Hope he answers. You should keep asking the same question every 30 minutes until he answers…Are you trying to get your post numbers up? 2 versions of Jesus return to His hometown:And He
I did ask in this thread.Hope he answers. You should keep asking the same question every 30 minutes until he answers…Are you trying to get your post numbers up? 2 versions of Jesus return to His hometown:And He
The James passage indicates that the one praying has faith. Does the prayer not offered in faith save the sick?