Why do WOF Luminaries Get Sick, or Seek Medical Treatment, or eventually Die?WOF dogma clearly teaches that healing is the right of the believer 100% of the time. If this is true why……………Buddy Harrison (Kenneth E. Hagin�s son-in-law) died of cancer. Buddy taught and practiced for over twenty years the WOF dogma regarding faith. Why?Mack Timberlake, WOF televangelist got cancer and died. Why?Peggy Capps, Charles Capps wife got cancer and survived due to medical treatment. Why?Betty Price, Fred Prices wife, got cancer, was medically treated and survived. Why?Joyce Meyer revealed on a televised broadcast that she had breast cancer and was going to believe God for her healing but her family urged her to obtain medical help and she did. Why?Jan Crouch had bouts with cancer (and medical treatment). Yet close friends Oral Roberts or Benny Hinn couldn�t heal or help Jan. Why?Tammy-Faye Bakker Messner died with cancer. Why?T.L. Osborn�s wife Daisy died from cancer. Why?Both Oral Roberts and Marilyn Hickey were admitted to the same hospital and were in different rooms on the same floor. Why couldn�t they heal each other?
Because they walk by faith And not by sight
2 cor 4:13We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak
What do we speak? I know this is a complete verse, but it’s not a complete sentence. It has a semi-colon after the end of it. What do we speak — and what is the result of that speech in the rest of the sentence?What is the ministry given in 4:1? 4:1 continues the thought from chapter 3. It’s talking about speaking something specific. Of what do we speak plainly in 3:12?
Probably because they are human & not intended to physically live forever________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name
We having the same spirit of faith] As David had when he wrote Ps 116I believed, therefore have I spoken: we also believe that we shall receive the fulfilment of all God’s promises; and being fully convinced of the truth of the Christian religion, we speak and testify that our deliverance is from God; and that he does not fail those who trust in him, and that he saves to the uttermost them who come unto him through Christ Jesus
Trials dark on every hand, and we cannot understand all the ways of God would lead us to that blessed promised land; but he guides us with his eye, and we’ll follow till we die, for
Perhaps rephrasing the original question would be more helpful. An I know they is all different levels of belief within the woffie camp, but in the main, all the woffie luminaries believe, in regard to physical healing:1. It was all took care of in the Atonement of Christ.2. Physical symptoms are an attack of the devil, lying spirits trying to convince the believer that he/she is sick. As such, physical symptoms are to be resisted/rejected/rebuked just as one would resist/reject/rebuke a temptation involving immorality, etcs. To acknowledge, for example, that you have a splitting headache, when you do, is seen as a negative confession and should never be spoken aloud. No need for a BC powder, Jesus is the healer.3. It is the guaranteed right, 100% of the time, ever single time ya ask, no exceptions, an perfectly in order to expect physical healing in this life.4. When it doesn’t happen………………O ye of little faith.Now, while this is bein preached by woffie luminaries day in an day out over TBN, DayStar, by Rhema graduates, etc., when they themselves git sick, something that itself is a sin cause it means they accepted the lying symptom, they takin meds to git better their own self. Then, as in the case a some I cited, if the meds don’t work, the person dies. All the while they preachin that others oughtta be livin by faith an walkin in divine health.Ole Finis postulated in the notes a his Bible that living in divine health is the guaranteed right of ever Christian. But he ole boy is dead.
What’s interesting is that some of the old line COG folks didn’t believe in going to the doctor or taking medicine, either. They prayed & believed God for healiing, and if you didn’t get healed, you were just outta luck________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name
Back in the 1920s, some Pentecostals taught that if one had proper faith in Jesus’ words in John 11:26
Brad needs to let us know.I suspect it was a lack of faith________________
You are so devoid of substantive dialogue you resort to self aggrandizement on your always open bully pulpit. Do others a favor and spend three months in Barnabas mode instead of exhibiting a critical spirit borne in your obvious frustration.Much more of what you despise can be supported Scripturally than your position. You use circumstance after circumstance, human after human, to give evidence to your negative belief but not Scripture.I’d much rather be a raving WOFFIE and die than a tepid excuser and die anyway________________Live an epiK life!Discover More…www.refocusing.orgA Mission in Formationwww.bluewaterinthekeys.com
Devoid of substance only to those unwilling to deviate from their woffie MO long enough to consider that what is devoid of substance is their doctrine. PLEASE, for all of our sake, use Scripture from the New Covenant to debunk the New Covenant________________Live an epiK life!Discover More…www.refocusing.orgA Mission in Formationwww.bluewaterinthekeys.com
In the first place, I wonder why you say OTCP is self aggrandizing. I just don’t see that, but I guess we all have different perspectives. In the second place, I’ve never seen OTCP desirous to debunk the New Covenant. In the third place, OTCP could use all the scripture he wanted to use and the ones who do not want to listen to him would probably have the same reactions they already have is my guess.Scripture says the last enemy that will be conquered is death. 1 Corinthians 15:26
Yes, it’s good to look at context. Paul just doesn’t pass muster with the WOF’ers with what he is saying in this entire chapter. Essentially, he is saying, We’re being killed ourselves spreading the gospel of Jesus (the gospel that results in eternal life through the righteousness given by Christ), but our dying is so you all can have life. We are trusting Christ with our lives, and someday we’ll all be in the resurrection together.I can imagine if Paul said verse 12 of chapter 4 directly to a WOF’er, he would be soundly rebuked for speaking death.
In the first place, I wonder why you say OTCP is self aggrandizing. I just don’t see that, but I guess we all have different perspectives. In the second place, I’ve never seen OTCP desirous to debunk the New Covenant. In the third place, OTCP could use all the scripture he wanted to use and the ones who do not want to listen to him would probably have the same reactions they already have is my guess.Scripture says the last enemy that will be conquered is death. 1 Corinthians 15:26indicates to me that is at a future point. Jesus has paid the price for this triumph, but we are awaiting the full fruition. Until then, there is corruption and mortality. A unbiased an objective assessment here, Miss Bonnie. cause FIRST, nere even once, in any woffie post I’ve ever made, has/was they any hint of self-aggrandizement.SECOND, it is the New Covenant verses what OTCP leans so heavily on in debunkin woffie teachin.