Does anyone know if the cog still has the policy if a minister is caught in homosexual act they cannot ever be reinstated? I haven’t read it in a long time
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Does anyone know if the cog still has the policy if a minister is caught in homosexual act they cannot ever be reinstated? I haven’t read it in a long time
Sorry. I haven’t heard if it ever changed. So many things has been changed. But I haven’t heard if that one has.
Used to be an abomination
That’s what the Bible said. And I know it hasn’t changed.
If the Bible is against something, then the CofG better be if it wants to be what God intended.
Still stands that way
But fornication can be forgiven? I know of a guy who slept with his secretary and after a couple years they gave him one of the biggest churches in state. Thoughts?
I know I don’t need to speak behind everything. But I wanted to say if someone has been delivered from that sin. I really don’t know how the Church Of God feels about that. Or if you have been delivered I really don’t know how God would feel about it if you have been washed and cleansed by The Blood Of The Lamb.
If God hasn’t spoken against homosexuals. Then tell me what does Romans chapter one mean. And in 1 St Corinthians 9&10 mean. It says Do you not know that all unrighteousness shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Be not decided , neither fornicators , nor idolaters, nor adulterers , nor effeminate , nor abusers of themselves with mankind Nor thieves , nor covetous , nor drunkards, nor revilers , nor extortioners , shall inherit the Kingdom of God.
God sent fiery serpents to kill thousands for fornication. And I think it’s safe to say more damage has been done to the family and by extension children of divorce. no restoration for homosexuals. I don’t see any justification for it. Isn’t repentance repentance? Now having said that I don’t care how much a child molester repented I’d never let him lead a boys club
The Bible says He cast our sins as far from the east is from the west. Or the sea of forgetfulness. Never to remember them against us any more. So if you are forgiven I believe they are forgiven. If they feel they are called to preach. All I know pray until you get an answer. But I see well what you are saying. I feel the same way. But it seems like they have changed and forgiven. God would lead in a different way. But I really don’t know what God would do.
The Scripture just came to me. In The Lords Prayer. He said led us not into temptation. He also tells us not to give place to the devil. Seems to me if that has been a life style for you. That would be putting yourself in a place of temptation. Even if you are forgiven , don’t give place to the devil.
Yes. that still stands in the bylaws.
John Conger here is a page from the current minutes of the CoG regarding ministers and homosexuality
And here is the section regarding adultery etc.
I believe we are too light in handling sexual sins of all natures.
There is a reason God Labels homosexuality as a sex of abomination and not just a sin.
Notice this,
1 Corinthians 6:18-20
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.
Notice according to this series of Scriptures sexual sin is a different classification of sin and has different results “done against the body, ye temple of The Holy Ghost”. (Notice sinning against the body the temple of the Holy Spirit). Who are we to re-classify God’s classification?
Here’s one for you, “Why did Acts 5:1 Ananias and Sapphira his wife, have to die (unless lying to God and to His Spirit is Blasphemy)?
Here is another one,
Acts 12 Herod died instantly for receiving praise….
Here is the point,
God created us, He set the limits, He set the requirements, He alone knows. Our job is to keep His standard and walk as close to Him and what He requires, instead of around the edges and outer fringes.
If they are genuine repentant and doing the ministry of God then God will open the doors “and their gifting will make room for them”.
Amen. Grace is the power to set us free from sin not a license to sin.
If we are going to talk about more destructive sin, does anyone believe homosexuality has destroyed more than adultery?
Corey Forsyth do the minutes have rules regarding people who were homosexual before there were saved not being able to be licensed?
I believe that church law develops sometimes after years of experience with an issue and what we read in the Minutes is a distillation of that experience in just a few words. For example, the judgment of James in Acts 15 illustrates this regarding how the Gentiles were to be received into the church. The indication is that there was quite a lengthy debate about the issue.
Yeah no doubt we grow. I just think it’s dangerous for a church to classify one sin as restorative but others not. It’s definitely a slippery slope
I like the division mortal and venial sins (I know that is Catholic)
Well, I do believe some sins are worse than others. Someone asked if homosexual activity were worse than sleeping with (or petting or kissing) a 16 year old. I’m thinking, in the Old Testament, a married man who slept with a virgin and were caught with witnesses probably would have been compelled to take her as a second wife, or at least pay the bride price. A married man who was caught with witnesses committing homosexual sex was supposed to have been put to death. At least in terms of penalty, homosexual sex is worse. But the penalty is the same as sex with a married woman or sex with certain close relatives.
Then there is the attitude of the heart. There was no sacrifice for ‘high handed’ sins in the Old Testament. God also looks at the heart attitude.
Yes so who are we to judge which is worse
There is no scriptural basis to deny restoration to homosexuals nor any to deny past sinners from getting credentials once they have be saved. Its ludicrous. Paul was a murderer.
if Paul had been a murderer he could not have been an apostle.