And therein lies just one of the reasons why the COG has lost its position as a once spiritually strong body. I’ve heard the “I’m 3rd generation church of Godâ€so many times I now automatically tune it out. Sorry, God is not impressed with your COG pedigree. Same with the requirements for having the right connections. So many of you great ministers have been denied positions that were God ordained all because you either didn’t meet the pedigree or connections requirement, or the position went to a friend of a friend of the AB. We can harp at the Millineals all day long, but they see right through this garbage and want nothing to do with it________________“Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”
I know you’re asking in terms of qualifications, but I would love to see an AB be a true pastor to the pastors under his “ruleâ€. If most of us pastored our churches like an average AB supposedly pastors us, we would be looking for a job.
ABs are appointed. They remain by confidence vote. I suppose that is a biblical model since ever since I can remember I was told that voting pastors in churches was not biblical. Thing is, we now vote pastors in, for the most part. So, we are doing things that are not biblical, on a local level. Things changed because bigger churches threatened to pull out of the Church of God. For the sake of finances they changed. Our current AB system is a holdover from the old system of appointments because it is more biblical I suppose. It is a system, though. I don’t think it is a very good system and if you asked most local pastors, in confidence of course, I believe they would agree.
The fist thing a good Overseer should have is a decent golf game followed by a haircut worth talking about.Next is a good camp meeting dialect and a wife that can cook fried chicken.
What a bunch of garbage in this thread! Thank you, 2ndgeneration, for speaking up. Exactly why I don’t even click on a lot of threads here. Garbage and innuendo..________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name
I am sorry sir but the last statement is not true!!! I can name you several overseers who do not have the pedigree, myself included. I can name five overseers now that have no family in the ministry in the COG. Two were raised by faithful laypeople. Three came out of Baptist or non Pentecostal backgrounds. No one knew who our families were. But for some reason, we find ourselves where we are and we are just trying to be faithful and serve the Lord and the church we all love. Nice! Also well stated. My BIL (S.A. (Dick) Lankford), was an over seer for many years and he had a dad who was a pro fain agnostic. No pedigree. His FIL, my dad, was a very good pastor but no pedigree. He was appointed because he had been a very successful pastor and man of God.That is not to say that names have not helped in appointments, because we know they have, but NOT ALL. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
I don’t know. I had a 2006 Ford Expedition and a 1995 Ford Ranger when I was appointed in 2012. I have a 2014 (bought in 2017) Ford Expedition now and still have the Ford Ranger.
I don’t know. I had a 2006 Ford Expedition and a 1995 Ford Ranger when I was appointed in 2012. I have a 2014 (bought in 2017) Ford Expedition now and still have the Ford Ranger. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
I don’t know. I had a 2006 Ford Expedition and a 1995 Ford Ranger when I was appointed in 2012. I have a 2014 (bought in 2017) Ford Expedition now and still have the Ford Ranger. [/quote]Ford Man…
The real answer by the book is be an Ordained Bishop…nothing more, nothing less.
And therein lies just one of the reasons why the COG has lost its position as a once spiritually strong body. I’ve heard the “I’m 3rd generation church of Godâ€so many times I now automatically tune it out. Sorry, God is not impressed with your COG pedigree. Same with the requirements for having the right connections. So many of you great ministers have been denied positions that were God ordained all because you either didn’t meet the pedigree or connections requirement, or the position went to a friend of a friend of the AB. We can harp at the Millineals all day long, but they see right through this garbage and want nothing to do with it________________“Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”
Not too cynical are we?
I know you’re asking in terms of qualifications, but I would love to see an AB be a true pastor to the pastors under his “ruleâ€. If most of us pastored our churches like an average AB supposedly pastors us, we would be looking for a job.
ABs are appointed. They remain by confidence vote. I suppose that is a biblical model since ever since I can remember I was told that voting pastors in churches was not biblical. Thing is, we now vote pastors in, for the most part. So, we are doing things that are not biblical, on a local level. Things changed because bigger churches threatened to pull out of the Church of God. For the sake of finances they changed. Our current AB system is a holdover from the old system of appointments because it is more biblical I suppose. It is a system, though. I don’t think it is a very good system and if you asked most local pastors, in confidence of course, I believe they would agree.
To put into the mix for men coming off the field________________
The fist thing a good Overseer should have is a decent golf game followed by a haircut worth talking about.Next is a good camp meeting dialect and a wife that can cook fried chicken.
Re: The real answer and the truth…
What a bunch of garbage in this thread! Thank you, 2ndgeneration, for speaking up. Exactly why I don’t even click on a lot of threads here. Garbage and innuendo..________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name
Re: The real answer and the truth…
I am sorry sir but the last statement is not true!!! I can name you several overseers who do not have the pedigree, myself included. I can name five overseers now that have no family in the ministry in the COG. Two were raised by faithful laypeople. Three came out of Baptist or non Pentecostal backgrounds. No one knew who our families were. But for some reason, we find ourselves where we are and we are just trying to be faithful and serve the Lord and the church we all love. Nice! Also well stated. My BIL (S.A. (Dick) Lankford), was an over seer for many years and he had a dad who was a pro fain agnostic. No pedigree. His FIL, my dad, was a very good pastor but no pedigree. He was appointed because he had been a very successful pastor and man of God.That is not to say that names have not helped in appointments, because we know they have, but NOT ALL. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
I don’t know. I had a 2006 Ford Expedition and a 1995 Ford Ranger when I was appointed in 2012. I have a 2014 (bought in 2017) Ford Expedition now and still have the Ford Ranger.
I don’t know. I had a 2006 Ford Expedition and a 1995 Ford Ranger when I was appointed in 2012. I have a 2014 (bought in 2017) Ford Expedition now and still have the Ford Ranger. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
I don’t know. I had a 2006 Ford Expedition and a 1995 Ford Ranger when I was appointed in 2012. I have a 2014 (bought in 2017) Ford Expedition now and still have the Ford Ranger. [/quote]Ford Man…
Ford Man…Much respect amigo 😀[/quote]