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I read this this morning as well, however, unlike Josh Harris’s announcement where I was truly heartbroken, I don’t have the same feeling from Marty’s statement.
I can agree with this statement…
Believe me As in marriages, there is a thin line sometimes between love and hate. I read this incident and I actually understood this part:
Yes sir, and we are paying the price…. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
This is what get me:
Sounds like you need to get a new church. You guys in all these dead churches, singing this guys meaningless Hillsong music (not all of them – but we ought to seriously review the lyrics – if they say nothing – pick something else) really need to get out more.You all want to blame every other church for doing it wrong – causing folks to leave the faith – when you should be looking in the mirror and seeing where you are dropping the ball.God free us from all the finger pointing, see what all you bad Christians are causing lectures________________
The smoke screen is questioning the validity and credibility of the bible but in reality it is the choice to reject the bible. The enemy is up to his same old tricks, that he used on adam and eve.
Just read comments on this article. It absolutely AMAZES me that people with TDS can somehow bring Trump in to any conversation
Maybe…Just maybe they are walking away not because they are rejecting what God says but they are walking away because after reading what the Bible says about how we should act and treat each other they don’t see that happening.
While true, one of the first lessons I was ever taught was to Follow Christ, not Christians. First, I want to pray for him, this is sad and I don’t want to see anyone truly lose out and walk away. Second, I feel these are very intellectually lazy excuses and probably masking something deeper. Most likely there has been a crisis of faith in his family or close circle that has made him rethink what he knows is the truth. Usually it comes in the form of a loved one embracing sin and a yearning to not condemn that loved one to an eternity in hell. I see it all the time, and as this society spins further and further away from truth, its becoming an epidemic. A once good friend of mine turned to Love Wins theology because it was too painful for him to concede the fact that his brother would probably NEVER be saved, so to ease his pain, one day he decided that it didn’t matter if he ever believed, that Jesus saved everyone on the cross, boom, no longer any need to worry about preaching or sharing the gospel (I guess we can all burn our bibles and purge our history books because everyone will go to heaven even if there are no Christians left on the earth). More often than that, its usually a family member has come out of the closet and rather than face the possibility that they may never be in heaven with them, they have to re-cast God as the great enabler of all sin.
Seems like Scripture predicted this kind of thing would happen. In fact, it’s been happening since the earliest days of the Church. Paul, Peter, Jude, and John all predicted there would be those who deny the Lord that bought them.
This man walked away because he didn’t believe…not because of how other Christians acted…who notoriously fail all the time. People left Jesus too…because he was Jesus. Maybe Jesus talked about hell too much.Maybe Jesus talked about sin too much.Perhaps we can talk to Jesus and ask him not to mention that God is holy too often.Maybe people only love Jesus when he feeds them or heals them. When he asks for crucifying the flesh, giving up earthly things because you are now part of the Kingdom….well, maybe it’s easier to walk away.Of course nowadays – you don’t just walk away – you publicly proclaim it – so others can see just how noble you are and keep following YOU – instead of Jesus________________
I actually understand the loss of faith, BUT your statement highlighted is soooo bad, once in the lime light, you want to remain. That was the most pathetic thing about the ‘falling away’. To me it was personal, I still admired people who declared they were Christians. I never felt like I NEEDED to declare anything publicly, faith or lack of it is personal.BUT I still say the highlighted part above is well said. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
John Cooper shared this same observationin a Facebook post he penned yesterday.From the article:
John Cooper shared this same observationin a Facebook post he penned yesterday.From the article:
JD said:This guy (and the others) act like they are getting real and you should of course take them seriously because they are such great leaders. ……..I smiled at the truth in that statement and compared it to teenagers who are ‘individuals, expressing themselves’, when they are doing exactly what the other teens are doing. They are not individuals, they are following the crowd.I do not know Mr. Cooper but his comments are spot on. And also what JD said in this statement is so true:I remember the days when if someone began to doubt their faith, they had enough common sense to just bow out gracefully while they worked things out.