Or is it flexible? Able to be moved?Thought this would make interesting discussion________________
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It appears that the disciples felt that Jesus would return shortly. Further, we are told that it is the longsuffering of God, not willing that any should perish, that is the reason that Jesus has not already returned (or so it seems).The Bible speaks of God cutting things short in righteousness. I have wondered if he is waiting for a certain event or thing or percentage (so to speak), and that will be the moment things are done.
Of course if we know God is omniscient as we should, then He knows the day and time. Does that not set the date on His timetable? According yonGalarians 4:4 Christ was sent in the fullness of time implying Gods perfect scheduling. Would it not be also true for the rapture, second coming, millennial reign, and new heaven and new earth________________
In the fore knowledge of God, as is everything. He who knows the end from the beginning, He who is the Alpha and Omega knows the timing of the end of this age and the beginning of eternity, as He inhabits eternity.
He knows everything HE will do and everything HE determines to do, it seems, but does He know EVERYTHING that will take place 300 years from now?Maybe. But open theism (the notion that God knows all there is to know, but cannot fully know the future…because there is no future out there to know) would ponder whether He does.It is my take that God is weighing many things, and will, when a certain point is reached, start the Second Coming Protocol (I capitalized that because it looks cool).
Isa. 46:10 ISV I declare from the beginning things to follow, and from ancient times things that have not yet been done; saying, My purpose will stand, and he will accomplish everything that I please.’Isa. 42:9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.And there are many more….
If God’s foreknowledge is exhaustively definite/closed, then I submit that numerous passages in Scripture make no sense, and that all things are absolutely predestined by God’s foreknowledge as well. If all things are certain in God’s mind from all eternity past, then all things are immutably fixed from eternity past, and absolutely predestined.We read in Jonah 3:10that God responded to the Ninevites’ repentance: When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he relented and did not bring on them the destruction he had threatened.We see God expressing regret for making mankind in Genesis 6, and deciding to wipe man out from the face of the earth due to their exceeding sinfulness. How can God be sorry for that which was a certainty in His mind from all eternity? We see God sending Isaiah back to King Hezekiah in 2 Kings 20, reversing the previous word that said he would die and not live. How is this possible if the future is 100% settled/predetermined beforehand?
One’s view of the sovereignty of God will determine (pardon the play on words) his/her view on the topic. FWIW, I believe the rapture of the church is a fixed point, just like the prophecies concerning the first Advent. I don’t think there was anything humans could have done to prevent the Messiah from being born at the precise time that He was. Similarly, I don’t believe there is anything humanly possible that will prevent the rapture from taking place at the appointed time.
It appears that the disciples felt that Jesus would return shortly. Further, we are told that it is the longsuffering of God, not willing that any should perish, that is the reason that Jesus has not already returned (or so it seems).The Bible speaks of God cutting things short in righteousness. I have wondered if he is waiting for a certain event or thing or percentage (so to speak), and that will be the moment things are done.
Of course if we know God is omniscient as we should, then He knows the day and time. Does that not set the date on His timetable? According yonGalarians 4:4 Christ was sent in the fullness of time implying Gods perfect scheduling. Would it not be also true for the rapture, second coming, millennial reign, and new heaven and new earth________________
In the fore knowledge of God, as is everything. He who knows the end from the beginning, He who is the Alpha and Omega knows the timing of the end of this age and the beginning of eternity, as He inhabits eternity.
I have not found a verse that says that God knows everything that is going to happen….
He knows everything HE will do and everything HE determines to do, it seems, but does He know EVERYTHING that will take place 300 years from now?Maybe. But open theism (the notion that God knows all there is to know, but cannot fully know the future…because there is no future out there to know) would ponder whether He does.It is my take that God is weighing many things, and will, when a certain point is reached, start the Second Coming Protocol (I capitalized that because it looks cool).
I don’t know, I have not seen that calenday. ________________Recorded Sermons @ http://www.pastorwiley.com
Isa. 46:10 ISV I declare from the beginning things to follow, and from ancient times things that have not yet been done; saying, My purpose will stand, and he will accomplish everything that I please.’Isa. 42:9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.And there are many more….
My opinion exactl________________
If God’s foreknowledge is exhaustively definite/closed, then I submit that numerous passages in Scripture make no sense, and that all things are absolutely predestined by God’s foreknowledge as well. If all things are certain in God’s mind from all eternity past, then all things are immutably fixed from eternity past, and absolutely predestined.We read in Jonah 3:10that God responded to the Ninevites’ repentance: When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he relented and did not bring on them the destruction he had threatened.We see God expressing regret for making mankind in Genesis 6, and deciding to wipe man out from the face of the earth due to their exceeding sinfulness. How can God be sorry for that which was a certainty in His mind from all eternity? We see God sending Isaiah back to King Hezekiah in 2 Kings 20, reversing the previous word that said he would die and not live. How is this possible if the future is 100% settled/predetermined beforehand?
One’s view of the sovereignty of God will determine (pardon the play on words) his/her view on the topic. FWIW, I believe the rapture of the church is a fixed point, just like the prophecies concerning the first Advent. I don’t think there was anything humans could have done to prevent the Messiah from being born at the precise time that He was. Similarly, I don’t believe there is anything humanly possible that will prevent the rapture from taking place at the appointed time.