The Overseer of TN gives remarks on the TN FaceBook page. There must be more to this story than we have heard thus far. You have to scroll down to his video. www.facebook.com/COGTN/videos/384507164261866/
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The Overseer of TN gives remarks on the TN FaceBook page. There must be more to this story than we have heard thus far. You have to scroll down to his video. www.facebook.com/COGTN/videos/384507164261866/
It seems they issue is dividing into camps. After watching the video and reading the comments of support for the TN Bishop, and comparing it to the video from the AL Pastor, and the comments, there’s a great deal of opportunity for disagreement and offense. One side claims being right because of standing for the Bible, the other side claims being right for following the Bible. One point in the TN Bishop’s video did catch my attention, the person who claims to have been done wrong by the Pastor’s words and worries that his position could be effected does not understand how a pastor can lose his ministry by just a few words spoken to the Bishop. Do pastors have the right to appeal to committees/boards to investigate members or Bishops who said something which caused their removal? Does a professor at a denomination institution have have more job security then a pastor in that denomination?When those in the authority structure feel they must defend their function in the media (print or video), somebody is going to lose their job.
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The link takes you the FB page. The video is a few posts down. Here is a link directly to the videowww.facebook.com/100064645903888/posts/774858991345624/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v
So, is the professor saying he did not partake of communion at an Anglican church, but rather at a COG?If the evidence is photographs, don’t Anglicans line up and stick out their tongue or palm in the front, and COG’s give out those little trays with juice and bread or two-in-one packets? You could tell from the photograph what type of scenario he was in, right?
Oh, just communion a couple of times. That’s nothing, or is it. I will not repeat what I wrote on another thread about the different views (beliefs) concerning communion, but being in communion with the Episcopal Church does have meaning. Or maybe it doesn’t mean a thing in the COG.
If he received communion at St Luke’s (A Gay Affirming Church) – TWICE – and a Church of God investigative board and state overseer thinks that is OK, then I am out!!!!!!!!! Seriously!!!!!!! Then, the poster of this says He (A professor at a Church of God school) went with her (his wife, who attends this gay-affirming church) to church (a gay-affirming church) twice (not once, but TWICE!) and received communion (In a gay-affirming Episcopal church!). Then the poster says, THAT’S IT! (What?)
Well, that’s it.The compromise that CoG preachers believed would never come.Has come.Sad beyond description________________Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church
The professor attends church with his wife. That church is gay-affirming. He takes communion twice. These facts, for some, conclude that the professor is gay-affirming himself, unfit to teach at Lee, and the COG must take action against this professor. 1. What if a pastor is asked to visit the hospital to pray with a dying gay man and he does? Is he gay-affirming and should his credentials be taken?2. What if a pastor’s daughter identifies as a lesbian and still lives in a COG parsonage? When informed, the pastor does not kick his daughter out. Is he gay-affirming and should his credentials be taken?3. What if the Pastor’s son is struggling with his sexuality and is seen going into a gay bar at the age of 21, while still living at the parsonage? When the pastor is informed, he does not kick his son out. Is he gay-affirming and should his credentials be taken?
I think the issue is the receiving of communion. The question is does that mean he is in communion with an affirming church, and if so what does that mean for him as a member of the COG. I don’t think the COG, or any Pentecostal church, has ever really dealt with the question of communion in regards to where one receives the eucharist. The Roman catholics have lots to say on this topic, as do the Anglicans, Episcopalians, and Eastern Orthodox. But the COG not so much. However, I remember a time when COG members were taken off the membership roll for attending another church’s services– especially if they were Baptist or Methodist. The COG has a history of churching people and I guess they are up to it again.
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I am curious how often COG ministers administer and receive communion with homosexuals or fornicators. Do you poll the audience beforehand to know who you are having communion with or who you are administering it to? If you did, would you exclude some folk?
“However, I remember a time when COG members were taken off the membership roll for attending another church’s services– especially if they were Baptist or Methodist.”Seriously? If that isn’t cultish I don’t know what is! Control the people much? Personally I wouldn’t step foot in a church that condoned such things________________“Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”
Koinonia could be translated ‘common union.’ If you have koinonia, you have oneness, fellowship, or communion with others. Paul warns that a little leaven works itself throughout a lump of dough. He says to purge out the old leaven. Regarding the fornicator Paul wrote about, the Corinthian church was to deliver him over to Satan, not keep company with him or eat with him. Doesn’t this imply it is contaminating to eat with the man. What about false teachers that promote sexual immorality? Jesus was displeased with the church tolerating of this sort of thing.In Jude and II Peter, the false brethren and false teachers were spots and blemishes on their love feasts, spots and blemishes while they feasted with them. Sacrificial lambs were to have no blemish and no spot. So apparently the false teachers were contaminating the dinner.
It is communion with the body of Christ. Christ’s body was broken for us.It is communion with the body of Christ.Ye are the body of Christ.I Corinthians 10.16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the
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