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I hope this reply is not off-topic; Bonnie, if you feel that it is, please comment and I will start a new thread.With that said, I don't understand this statement. What about this makes a relationship beyond great? Is female superiority not reflective of the same inequality as male superiority? I would really like to understand the thinking behind this (admittedly very common) statement.My wife and I are equals (even though we hold to complementarianism and male headship; figure that one out!) My goal in our marriage is to serve her, sacrifice for her, and put her first. Her goal in our marriage is to serve me, sacrifice for me, and put me first. I would argue that that level of mutual submission, service, and sacrifice is what makes a marriage beyond great.


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I will say I can understand the comment. In a world where so many women are relegated to second-class citizens in marriages, I understand urging men to make their wives #1. A woman getting a greater share is much preferable, in my opinion, to her being a second-class citizens.


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Questions from the author:If the husband is the head--the ruler--in the home, who regulates him? Who determines if his headship is actually comparable to the headship of Christ? The husband himself? Is he alone the interpreter of the biblicalstandard? Is he the judge and jury in his own court case? Is he the referee, the umpire, in his own ball game? Is he absolutely unbiased? Who determines exactly what male headship entails in each situation? Is there a written or unwritten standard for twenty-first- century domesticsituations? At what point, if ever, does his behavior make his headshipinvalid? Indeed, what are the consequences when husbands fail to live


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Dave, my take on what c6th and Jerry Clower are/were saying is not that she is above him; it's that there is an exchange. She exchanges some agency about executive decisions for material comforts and a life of ease.


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I don't think I'm understanding you; or we are talking about two different things. I am taking issue with the following statement only:


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In an extreme circumstance that calls for it, maybe. But I don't think that would generally be a healthy thing to do in a relationship. The scenarios I was thinking of were if a woman were mentally or emotionally unstable or if she'd been texting her old boyfriend.Let me ask you something, Bonnie. The Bible tells wives to submit to their husbands in everything. Do you think it would be right for a husband to refuse to submit to her husband if he told her he wanted to hold her cell phone or car keys


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