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www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9eAgjH9cJQ

Video is 7 years old.What has been happening with it lately?Has anyone put it under a microscope and tested them for pure gold consistency

I do find it odd that, apparently, no one has come along and confessed, Yeah, I was told to put some gold glitter in the air conditioner vents, then turn it on when the preacher said 'the streets are gold!'Or has someone done that?

lNaw, I only worked with feather on the ceiling fan to make angels wings feathers.

Not sure why you would doubt an obvious manifestation. Didn't say it was gold NBF not sure what it was. But don't you think God can do ANYTHING? What's the point? Not that Bill Johnson got any Glory, just to show God was pleased and He was there. Jehovah Shammah. If you go back and read some of the accounts of Azusa Street you will find numerous mentions of the Shekinah Glory cloud that came like a mist and other manifestations in the physical realm of wonders like this. The fire dept. was called on more than one occasion to Azusa because of the fire manifesting from the roof. No physical fire but it looked like something real and that has happened many times over the years in other places as well.

Brother James, I do believe that God can do these things. To be honest, though, the main reason I don't believe it is because...well, it just doesn't seem to sit right with me.Perhaps I'd do better to keep my opinions to myself? But just as we all know that God can reveal things to His people, we also are wise to consider that there are Peter Popoffs in this world that will play God's people.Even Simon the Sorcerer, until the real thing showed up, was considered to be moving in the power of God, apparently.Like I said in my post, if it is scam, I am surprised that no one has come forward to admit it. But even that doesn't make me think everything is on the up and up (again, I could be wrong).I remember watching a YouTube video of someone doing a magic trick with a spoon up against the wall. Every time they placed it on the wall, it would fall...but then the prayed, and what do you know, it stuck! Yes, the moved it to a different place on the wall, etc. And it was obvious to anyone with any sense that it was not real. The person might have had good intentions (not sure if that's possible, but maybe), but what they did was give the devil and opportunity to cause people to dismiss the real move of God.

Bill Johnson, contrary to what you may have read about him on this board, is a man of integrity. There is no way he would be involved in any chicanary or false signs. It is possible others did something he wasn't aware of but I doubt that is what happened. The video referenced was from 2011. He didn't even want it published. Not because it was fake, but because he didn't want people coming to Bethel for just signs. If, in the Presence of God these things happen, well then they happen. Bill is a friend of mine (not close but I've known him for 20 yrs plus). He was 4th gen. AG pastor before pulling out of the AG. His credibility and integrity whether you agree with all his teachings or not, are beyond reproach (and yes OT he missed it with Todd). So did I.

I agree with your post BJ.My daughter attends Bethel & she enjoys it very much.I've been there for their services & every single part of it has been fine quality from the greeting to the worship (DUH!!!) & to the preaching with good ole fashion altar calls. They just got approved to build a new sanctuary campus that will better accommodate their attendance & massive growth. This year they had 2,400 people apply for their college & could only admit 1,300 due to space & staffing. I know they've done some odd ball stuff a few times but then again who of us hasn't?Besides, we tend to take shots at all the big churches (Warren, Osteen, Furtick ...etal) why don't we ever talk about us small churches lol Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!Email me at: [email protected] planters are focused on just one thing ...introducing people to Jesus!

I seem to recall hearing about glory clouds and people seeing fire at the Azusa Street revival

If you recall