Ya points is well taken, longhorn. But notice in the ole timers post I didn't say nothin bout RSM not producing folk with hands on ministry. RSM could very well do that, an ifn RSM does, praise the good Lord fer it.I'm talkin about at the time of graduation, what RSM is gonna confer on the graduate. A feller can easily an truthfully say or put on his resume, I'm a graduate of RSM, 2017-2019, with a diploma. As time goes by an if the quality of the graduates warrants such, the word will spread, an they will be value in RSM training.If RSM, at the time of graduation, confers a 2-year degree, that's what will be listed. But how many graduates is gonna honestly state, I got a 2-year degree from RSM but it is unaccredited? If its like most all other unaccredited degree holders, very few to none will mention it.Right now in the state of Oregon, if the holder of an unaccredited degree uses that degree in any way professionally, he/she must state that the degree is unaccredited. Other states are picking up on this practice.