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It is totally understood that some people have accredited degrees and some use titles from unaccredited institutions. We have posters who have done an excellent job raising the awareness that some who call themselves by titles they have not earned.I personally appreciate the effort that has gone into bringing this to our attention. Without a doubt it is the beat of their heart, and with pure motive, that this has been brought to our attention.And yes, it is troubling when people make claims to be Dr. so & so for instance, and it is a title they have never earned. Our own University, bestows the title of Dr. on those who are elected to top office in our church.It's indeed a great honor. But after years of seeing this done, I never did respect or appreciate the honored, any more than when there were on a first name basis with their fellow ministers. While receiving an Honorary Degree would certainly be a, it is in way some can show their respect and appreciation, in my opinion, it is totally egotistical and probably dishonorable to use it among those who have put in the time and effort to earn theirs. And, it may also be dishonest to give the impression that one has put in the effort to earn the degree.So, I do have sympathy with those who feel it is their duty to point out why it is important to have credentials one has earned. However, while it is completely in order to post about that subject and share one's thoughts about it, calling out names and pointing out individuals, is slightly over the line in my opinion.I now about being over the line. It was once necessary for me to ban myself for something I said that was out of line and over it at the same time. In this case, nobody is banned. I'm only referring to my conduct.As far as I know, we do not even know the last name of the Disciples. They were all on a first-name basis. That's how it is supposed to work in a Brotherhood, a family. For the most part, even the Lord, didn't go around requiring people to call Him King Of Kings. Most of the time, it seems he said something like Hello. My name is Jesus.Of course, that's just my opinion and I welcome you to share yours.Doyl

Doyle, thank you for your comments regarding the use of titles. Please let me clarify the thread I began.1. I did not write the article regarding Rick Joyner's fake docterate, it was written by a neutral source (i.e., non COG writer) and posted on the Internet. I posted the article to show that OTCP is by far not the only one who acknowledges the unethical nature of fake/unaccredited docterates.2. My thread WAS NOT about honery docterates, it was solely about those who obtain a docterate (which aint real) from a blatant degree mill or some slipshod unaccredited entity.3. It is not my intention to publically shame those within our faith tradition. I called Rick Joyner by name because the public Internet article called him by name.

In the hierarchy of Life those that I deeply respect are the men and women that have earned the highest degree possible. These are the people that I trust the most. Very Very few have shamed the profession they have entered and none that I know personally.When I talk to one of these professionals I have faith that what they tell me is truth. So I want to know who I am talking to or putting faith in. If a John Doe is flaunting a fake degree I would want to know that just as much as if a MD was flaunting a fake degree. There are conditions that could result in great harm to someone that is being lied to.IF a person is shamed by being spoken about publicly about using his or her fake degree , they know the solution to this. I know of some that have these fake degrees but didnt think it was as rampant in the pastoral profession until I have read the posts on this board. This is information that is important to me as well as others that may refer someone to one of these individuals.

I do not like it when someone claims to be something they are not Recorded Sermons @ www.pastorwiley.com

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Amen to that!

The Dr. in my name is not a milled credential Recorded Sermons @ www.pastorwiley.com

The Dr. in my name is not a milled credential!