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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Old Time Country Preacher: Re: OTCP, |
| Mark, son, the ole timer is just aggravatin ya on this Jewish thing. While I am firmly convinced that the New Covenant believer needs nothing Jewish for salvation (e.g., observing the major feasts, prayer shawls, etc.), I know they is great benefit studying Judaic culture/custom and seein how the symbolism all relates to Christ. I study it maself an even use it fer preaching/teaching. Always with the knowledge that Christ is the fulfillment of ALL OT practice/methodology/etc. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | maqqebet: Re: OTCP, |
| Mark, son, the ole timer is just aggravatin ya on this Jewish thing. While I am firmly convinced that the New Covenant believer needs nothing Jewish for salvation (e.g., observing the major feasts, prayer shawls, etc.), I know they is great benefit studying Judaic culture/custom and seein how the symbolism all relates to Christ. I study it maself an even use it fer preaching/teaching. Always with the knowledge that Christ is the fulfillment of ALL OT practice/methodology/etc.But on this thing that I can come across as a know it all and my position is always right, well, ats a little different matter. OTCP does not know it all, nor does he think he knows it all. Only God knows it all. We, on the other hand, are ever learning. Oh, I'm not aggravated by your antics just making an observation The HammerMi kamocah ba'elim AdonaiWho is like you, Adonai, among the mighty? (Exodus 15:11 |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | maqqebet: The Seder Jesus Observed... |
| Both the Jewish and Messianic Jewish Passover Seder (Order - the observation was much more than a meal) are rich in tradition that have been attached to the observation through the centuries.Obviously, since some of these traditions come from later times and host-cultural influences (Jews dispersed/exiled), some of these traditions were not part of the same Passover observation Jesus and His disciples partook.Two chief parts of the the present observation Jesus did not observe include: |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| Hammer,Interesting that they only use a shank now...Did Jesus' last supper include a sacrificed lamb?The reason I ask - Jesus asked someone else to prepare the meal. Did they get one?Was a lamb supposed to be present, was it present, or was Jesus supposed to bring the lamb,and did Jesus present himself as the lamb instead?Thanks |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | maqqebet: NBF |
| Good question! The Gospels do not record Peter and John going to the Temple to present a lamb for sacrifice, and while it isn't always safe to assume anything, it stands to reason if they were to Go and prepare the Passover for us... (Luke 22:8), it would incorporate all the details needed at that time. The Passover meal would be incomplete without the roasted lamb. I can see how some would have a hard time seeing Jesus partaking of a lamb if it was symbolic of His sacrificial death; yet, it was also a memorial of the Redemption of Israel. Up until this time, Jesus had been faithful to follow the Biblical (not Pharisee) injunctions imposed by the Law of Moses (two feast in particular - Passover and Tabernacles), and even a non-Biblical feast, the Feast of Dedication (Hanukkah).Among other things, Jesus was an observant Jew (His mother was Jewish).Jesus presented the Unleavened Bread as His broken body and there is rich symbolism here. Originally the unleavened bread symbolized the haste in which the meal was prepared but leaven became a symbol for the evil impulse of the heart. Unleavened bread became a symbol for freedom from decay, thus Jesus was prefiguring His resurrection and symbolically partake of His resurrection life.The eating of the Unleavened Bread and the Cup of Redemption became the focal point of the Gospel record. One pointing to the Resurrection Life sustained by ingesting the anticipated Resurrection of Jesus (see Romans 6:1f), and the Blood ratification of the New Testament (See Exodus 24, where Moses uses similar, if not identical language, vv. 8; also the context of a fellowship meal in which Yahweh attended) The HammerMi kamocah ba'elim AdonaiWho is like you, Adonai, among the mighty? (Exodus 15:11 |
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