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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Link: Sanctification as a one-time event post salvation |
| This used to be a major emphasis in the COG and most Pentecostal denominations that came from a Holiness background. How many of you believe you have to have an extra one-time sanctification experience after salvation before you can get baptized with the Holy Spirit? Where does the Bible teach this? Can anyone point me to a verse |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Quiet Wyatt: |
| While that may have been a true characterization of the way some taught sanctification, it is most definitely not how Wesley himself or even most modern Wesleyans would describe it. 1 Thess 5:23-24is one of the strongest supporting texts for the Wesleyan doctrine of entire sanctification attainable in this life, not as a way of removing one's ability to sin (aka freewill), but of the Lord's faithfulness to make the believer entirely holy and preserved blameless unto the coming of the Lord. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
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| Quiet Wyatt, do you take that verse to mean that sanctification is a one-time experience subsequent to salvation? That was the area of disagreement early in the Pentecostal movement |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Quiet Wyatt: |
| Like I said, the one-time experience idea was a caricature of the true Wesleyan doctrine. I personally am kind of ambivalent about the Wesleyan view, but I honestly do see where verses like 1 Thess 5:23-24 |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | John Jett: |
| I was raised 4th gen COG, but I've always leaned toward the AG on this topic. I like to think of sanctification as front-sliding, you know, the opposite of backsliding. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Quiet Wyatt: |
| My own views cannot be strictly classified as Wesleyan, though I do have tremendous respect for Wesley and Wesleyanism. It has been rightly said that had there been no Wesleyanism, there would have been no modern-day Pentecostalism. In any case, whether one agrees or disagrees with Wesley's ideas (I differ on several points with Wesley actually), his A Plain Account of Christian Perfection is indispensable for anyone wanting to understand what he actually taught regarding sanctification: http://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/a-plain-account-of-christian-perfection/Another excellent book that gives a good basic introductory survey of Wesley and the profound impact his life and ministry continues to have down to the present is |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Quiet Wyatt: |
| A good, brief article on Wesley's key concept of sanctification: http://www.ministrymatters.com/all/entry/6401/the-wesleys-holiness-and-life-in-the-spirit |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | JLarry: |
| Amen, Amen and amen.When filling our my ministerial report I always counted those saved in the sanctified slot.Sanctified means set apart. When I got saved I was set apart. If any man be in Christ he is a new Creature (creation) Recorded Sermons @ www.pastorwiley.com |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Bullseye77: Sanctification |
| Which term would best describe sanctification:1. Initial sanctification2. Second blessing, or crisis experience3. Positional sanctification4. Progressive sanctification5. Practical sanctificationor6. All of the abov |
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