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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Old Time Country Preacher: Norvel Hayes Daughter Passes: I Simply Don't Understand (L) |
| https://endtimeheadlines.org/2015/11/daughter-of-norvel-hayes-passes-away/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | caseyleejones: One of my best friends worked very closely with her.... |
| Re: One of my best friends worked very closely with her.... |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | bradfreeman: |
| I'm sorry about the loss of your friend I'm not saved because I'm good. I'm saved because He's good!My website: www.bradfreeman.comMy blog: http://bradcfreeman.tumblr.com/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | tryingtofitin: It is appointed unto men once to die... |
| Death is a difficult thing to come to terms with. Of course we know Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die… but that still doesn’t satisfy us when death comes. I resign to the fact that it was her time. No amount of faith prevented it from happening, and yet we have seen in scripture where God extended a king’s days.When David Wilkerson exited this life I had a hard time understanding the way he left. A car wreck! I argued with the Lord over that one. Here was a faithful servant of the Lord who had cheated death more than once by the protective hand of his God, and you mean to tell me God was not there this time? It wasn’t until his memorial service at Times Square Church that I gained understanding. They played a clip of him preaching just a short time before his death and he remarked, “So what if I’m walking down a street in New York city and a car runs up on the side walk and kills me? So what! One minute I’m walking on concrete the next streets of gold!”He was saying that when it’s his time it doesn’t matter how he leaves this world.Now OTCP, I know what you are implying by your question and post. If Norvel was such a man of faith, why did his daughter die? And I also understand it is your way of jabbing at word of faith preaches. The simple truth is… when its your time, its your time. How God chooses to let you exit this life, I.E: cancer, heart attack, car wreck, etc., is His own choosing. Surly Jesus could have called ten thousand angels to come and rescue him, but He knew it was His time.Charles Capps, another woffer, told his family two days before he died that he would be leaving on the very day he did.The death of Norvel’s daughter does in no way diminish his faith in God nor does it say he did not have enough faith, nor that his teaching on faith is false. Her death simply reminds us that when it’s our time… faith, calling things that are not as though they were, declaring scripture, and all the other things “woffers” are known for cannot stop the inevitable. I for one don’t want it stopped. When its my time, let me go! This world is not my home, I’m just passing through. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: |
| My thoughts and prayers go out to anyone who loses a loved one. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]://shipslog-jack.blogspot.com/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | JLarry: |
| I believe the Bible says; and I paraphrase; Death is a precious thing in the sight of the Lord.We see it as a bad thing.This morning I told a friend of her death. She and Norval have preached in his church. He said; I just don't understand this.I will remind him that it is a precious thing Recorded Sermons @ www.pastorwiley.com |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Old Time Country Preacher: Re: It is appointed unto men once to die... |
| 1. Incorrect my fellow poster. The reason I titled the post Norvel Hayes Daughter is because the article I provided the link to was titled the same. Hayes was a WOF pioneer, however, the article is about his daughter, who carried on his word after he died. She too set forth WOF teaching. In no way is this thread a jab at WOF preachers. It is an honest assessment of WOF teaching. And as the title states, I don't understand. Now I understand woffie teaching regarding physical healing, the guaranteed right the believer is purportedly given at conversion to reign supreme over sickness/disease. I understand how the luminaries of woffie-ism tell their followers to resist all sickness just as one would resist the temptation to sin, and in doing so all sickness will flee. What I don't understand is WHY IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THE LUMINARIES. And what I really don't understand is WHY, WHEN A LUMINARY IS DIAGNOSED WITH SOME SICKNESS/DISEASE, AND DIES, WHY NO ONE FROM THAT CAMP WILL RISE WITH HONESTY/INTEGRITY AND SAY 'WE WERE WRONG, AND WERE GOING TO AMEND OUR DOCTRINE.' 2. The death of Norvel's daughter--after a long bout with cancer--most definitely brings into question the faith woffies proclaim. Yes, everybody is going to die. But this long bout with cancer, when at the same time these folk is preachin at a feller is guaranteed healin in the atonement, is a absolute travesty. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | caseyleejones: in this thread you will notice 2 or 3 classy threads.... |
| and one tasteless.... |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | tryingtofitin: Amen |
| Amen and amen!OTCP... for you to say, The death of Norvel's daughter--after a long bout with cancer--most definitely brings into question the faith woffies proclaim.... disgusting. In a moment when compassion and sympathy is the order of the day you have nothing but scathing, mocking judgment to offer. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | JimmieDavis: OTCP is not only a parody-He's a stricken coward |
| OTCP...` |
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