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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | caseyleejones: Pentecostal women and muslim women.....both in bondage? |
| I was at a restaurant yesterday with my wife. I noticed a pentecostal(oneness or apostolic) group sitting together. When I looked at the men, they looked sharp and very stylish. They had stylish haircuts and clothes. I looked at the females of the group......long hair...a few buns... with no style and dresses...somewhat outdated....The first thought that came to my mind was how close the two groups are in their subjection of women to a certain style but they themselves are very much like every other man. Muslim women wear a headdress and the required clothing...........the same as our oneness group.... |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Quiet Wyatt: Re: Pentecostal women and muslim women.....both in bondage? |
| While I have never held to the dress-code standards of Oneness Pentecostalism, I have known many personally as friends who do hold to those standards, both Oneness and Trinitarian. There may of course be exceptions, but I have never known a Oneness lady to act or speak as if she were beaten into submission and was somehow forced to obey the outward dress, hair and no-make-up standards. Usually Oneness women are actually quite preachy about their personal convictions on these matters. Also, you would NEVER hear of a fundamental Muslim woman being a preacher to a congregation of men and women, but that kind of thing happens fairly often among Pentecostals. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Link: |
| How does being unfashionable equal 'bondage' |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: |
| It doesn't. But when one gender is strongly encouraged or mandated to be unfashionable and the other gender is allowed to dress in fashionable clothes and groom themselves in modern ways, it indicates a potential power imbalance that is not godly in origin. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Quiet Wyatt: |
| The teaching of the classic Holiness movement regarding women's hair and dress was not that they necessarily ought to try to look unfashionable as such, but that modesty should be their aim, and that women should not cut their hair, while men should never have long hair (see 1 Cor. 11:2-16). Never cutting one's hair really does tend to limit one's options in hairstyle. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: |
| I have a very negative view of these folks |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | wayne: |
| I'm not sure how it was in your area but in our area these folks are very condescending and judgmental. I have had some bad experiences with these folks and when I see them, my guard goes up. We had a gentleman in our church that got saved. He had been a heavy drinker, done time in jail, the list goes on and on. He finally gave his heart to God and one Sunday we were baptizing him. I baptized him in the name of the Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. His sister who was one of these folks made her way to me after the service and questioned me why I didn't say Holy Ghost . I told her Ghost and Spirit have the same meaning in this sense. She gave me a smug look and a hmmm and walked away. This man told me, she was part of the reason he never wanted to get saved. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| Only morons would equate the two.C'mon guys - just because you hated it is no reason to compare it to jihadists.Not remotely the same.One husband - one wife.No face coverings.No bombings for Jesus.No nine year olds getting married (although some holiness were young - not Muhammedesque young.Women were not property.No genital mutilations.I could go on forever.No comparison |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| Did only religious men make it up? The Old Testament is written by men?Muslims and Jews use the Old Testament. Did it teach that woman is the head of man? These men took their cues from the BIBLE - even nature itself after the curse - they weren't made up in a vacuum.Only with the New Testament did we understand that killing all sin - wiping out all sin in the camp - would only end up killing all of us.Only in the New Testament did we learn that there is neither male nor female at the Cross.In the Old Testament - there is a lot of male and female differentiation - even so much that a part of the curse was: |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: ________________ |
| The OP wasn't equating Oneness with Islam, good grief. It was suggesting they may share similarities in |
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