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I am sure by now most have received notice of a proposed by-law change being placed on the GA agenda.The change would allow Ordained Ministers to sit on the General Council floor with the Ordained Bishops.What are your thoughts on this proposed change

I would approach this proposed by-law change as I would any other. I would pray and then listen to the collective opinion and wisdom of the General Assembly. With that being said:Today, I would vote FOR the proposed change. 1) This would still mean that every PERSON (regardless of age*, gender, race, nationality, ethnicity, etc) would have been screened by their state/regional credentialing committee, state bishop, and state council to be on the General Council floor.2) Every PERSON would have either passed through CAMS&MIP or the Lead Institute and have successfully passed TWO Examinations and an oral interview on Doctrine, Polity and Scripture.3) Every PERSON would have been current on their Ministerial Reporting.4) Every PERSON would still have the collective benefit of the Ordained Bishops in the room and discussion with them.This doesn't change the Leadership structure in any way but it does change the Leadership paradigm by including the voices of another generation and of course the ordained women serving among and with us.Consider me in. What are your thoughts brothers?Edit: We are hemorrhaging young ministers and church planters. What solutions can we come up with Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8

By the way, I am 40. So- I am neither young nor am I old. Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8

The ole timer will vote in the affirmative. Hope is passes.

Just eliminate the General Council and be done with it. Let's include everybody

Do you care to expound? Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8

Do you care to expound? :) For the most part, what I've written, I've written :D If inclusiveness is the goal, just eliminate the General Council altogether and let's roll

I think this is the back door to eventually allowing women to become Ordained Bishops. The leadership sees that the men won't allow the women to come up to their level so they have come up with a way to bring the men down to the level of the women.Once all the women who are Ordained Ministers are allowed to have a voice in the perfecting of the agenda they will have enough votes to eventually move forward with women becoming Ordained Bishops.I'm not opposed to women becoming Ordained Bishops. I just think this is a back door way to get what the leadership couldn't get previously

I think this is the back door to eventually allowing women to become Ordained Bishops. The leadership sees that the men won't allow the women to come up to their level so they have come up with a way to bring the men down to the level of the women.Once all the women who are Ordained Ministers are allowed to have a voice in the perfecting of the agenda they will have enough votes to eventually move forward with women becoming Ordained Bishops.I'm not opposed to women becoming Ordained Bishops. I just think this is a back door way to get what the leadership couldn't get previously. Good point. I wonder if we can find out what that number of ordained women is Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8

Do you care to expound? For the most part, what I've written, I've written If inclusiveness is the goal, just eliminate the General Council altogether and let's roll. The goal to me is preserving our church family. I'm not interested in inclusiveness for political correctness sake. How do we value, engage and keep our young ministers and church planters Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8