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Post subject: Nature Boy Florida: If you vote for ______, this is what it means:
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am
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So very tired of all the clowns telling everyone what their vote means about them.A vote means only what the person voting for it says it means - nothing more - nothing less.Tired of hearing:If a Christian votes for , it means they aren't a Christian.If an evangelical votes for , they have lost their moral authority.Truth is - everyone voting - knows the real reason they are voting for a particular person.If you are African American, I am voting for , because of ... Whatever the reason they say is the reason they are voting for a person - is the actual reason they are voting for the person. Some clown outsider doesn't get to define it for them.If an evangelical votes for , because of ... Whatever the reason they say is the reason they are voting for a person - is the actual reason they are voting for the person. Some clown outsider doesn't get to define it for them.Get it?If I tell you I always vote for the most moral person - and write in Billy Graham - that is the reason.If I tell you I am voting for Trump because he will do less damage to the country than Hillary - that is the reason.Quit telling me it means something other than what I tell you it means


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Post subject: Cojak: Re: If you vote for ______, this is what it means:
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The truth (IMHO) but to those who cannot see it, that idea is WRONG.I honestly wish there was a magic answer, but there isn't. If Trump loses, Hillary is in. Just like Mitt losing Obama is in. to me that isn't complicated. BUT I GUESS IT IS Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/


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Post subject: Nature Boy Florida:
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I agree with what you say - every vote not against Hillary is a vote for her - but my point is - most folks - in their hierarchy of reasons for why they vote for someone - have a good reason for their vote.The church isn't embarrassing itself for who it is supporting.They have very good reasons for why they are voting for Trump - and if it is due to Supreme Justices, church rights - or whatever - that is the reason for their support - it has nothing to do with whether the candidate has other flaws - they have deemed their candidate to have less flaws - and more positives than the other person.If they want the smartest, most moral person, write in NBFs name. I will accept the office if elected


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Post subject: diakoneo:
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This election scares me as it relates to Christians.Not because of the damage to America if is elected but because of the terrible division I am seeing in the Christian community. Social media is the major cause of this. But the main reason is Satan! He desires to divide us and many of us are falling hook, line and sinker for his bait.


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I agree. Some sad stuff written about Beth Moore.Again, I think her reason is her reason...it's not a bad one.In her hierarchy, having a sexist man as President is worse than having Hillary - and everything that brings with it. While I think she has made a mistake - she doesn't - it makes perfect sense to her. I still think she is a Christian - and don't want to be divided with her over it


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Just my opinion - based on how I know God works: (it might be totally inaccurate)You know, if Trump, really would have had a conversion to Christianity - and spoke about it with joy - that is what would have inoculated him against all this stuff.I suspect - God did reach out to him through some of the Christian leaders that he met with - and he might have been almost persuaded - but not altogether persuaded.I believe that will be the difference in this election


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Post subject: Eddie Robbins:
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I am much closer to Libertarian than I am either of the parties. I have never been a member of the Republican Party. This seems like the perfect year to actually vote that way. So, for me, it is a matter of conscience.


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I think what NBF is getting at is not about your vote, its your public defense and tirades. I and most that don't like Trump are not telling you you can't vote for him and be a Christian (if I have then I apologize, I may question it, but I haven't even said you can't vote Democrat and go to heaven, still question it though). Its the leadership of the church making certain claims that morality can be put aside this time even though they said the opposite in the 90s with Bill Clinton, that looks bad on the church and on those leaders', and I'm sorry but I feel it WILL reflect on the rest of us, if it does not, then great, but I don't see how.But you most certainly can freely vote for anyone you want! I don't even use the bad-math if you vote for X you are voting for Y because only Z can beat Y reasoning like many here try to shove on everyone else. I have a lot of family and friends voting for Trump, that's fine, they have thought it through for themselves and this is anything but an easy choice this time. I also have many who are VERY civic minded and patriotic and their conscience and prayer has led them to decide not to vote at all! Again, their choice and not easily decided on, but yet many here will tell them what THAT means (they aren't this or that, they are this or that, they are voting for Hillary, they ARE voting for Trump, etc..) IF I vote third party, don't tell me what MY vote means either. I'm awfully tired of hearing moralizing sermons about why I should vote for Trump. This is America, we are free to vote according to our conscience, and the candidates are free to have lived how they lived and say the things they want to say that sway voters to vote for them as individuals, its up to them.


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I'm convinced to vote for Trump for these three reasons


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1) I'm voting for the platform not the person2) I'm voting for Sampson rather than Jezebel


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