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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | bradfreeman: The latter times "falling away" - read this carefully |
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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: Re: The latter times "falling away" - read this carefully |
| Who says this?I know it is Halloween - but this massive straw man is misplaced |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | bradfreeman: Re: The latter times "falling away" - read this carefully |
| Who says this?I know it is Halloween - but this massive straw man is misplaced. Charisma magazine, David Ravenhill, Mike Brown.. I'm not saved because I'm good. I'm saved because He's good!My website: www.bradfreeman.comMy blog: bradcfreeman.tumblr.com/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: Re: The latter times "falling away" - read this carefully |
| Who says this?I know it is Halloween - but this massive straw man is misplaced. Charisma magazine, David Ravenhill, Mike Brown... Perhaps you should go to their website and submit your treatise |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | bradfreeman: Re: The latter times "falling away" - read this carefully |
| Who says this?I know it is Halloween - but this massive straw man is misplaced. Do you like and agree with OP I'm not saved because I'm good. I'm saved because He's good!My website: www.bradfreeman.comMy blog: bradcfreeman.tumblr.com/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: Re: The latter times "falling away" - read this carefully |
| Who says this?I know it is Halloween - but this massive straw man is misplaced. Do you like and agree with OP? How about abstaining from fleshly lusts that war against the soul? Is that a rule?The OP is obviously talking about Jewish oriented legalism. None of the men you cited teach this. They do teach separation from the world, which is an apostolic command |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | bradfreeman: Re: The latter times "falling away" - read this carefully |
| Separation from the world means separation from Jewish oriented legalism. The world that hated Jesus was Jewish legalism. The world that hated the early church was Jewish legalism. The world that persecutes grace is law. They teach a mixed message. When we rely on our behavior as any part of the basis for our confidence toward God, our blessing, our access to the Spirit or miracles, we are preaching a mixed message -- faith in Jesus + faith in our performance.There are a lot of NT encouragements to forgive, to give, to avoid evil, to speak, to go and do many other things. But they are NOT any part of the basis of our righteousness, our blessing, miracles or our life in Christ. The finished work of Christ is the basis for every spiritual blessing in Heavenly places and all else that God freely gives us. As we believe that, we access it.Is there another passage you'd like to discuss I'm not saved because I'm good. I'm saved because He's good!My website: www.bradfreeman.comMy blog: bradcfreeman.tumblr.com/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: Re: The latter times "falling away" - read this carefully |
| Separation from the world means separation from Jewish oriented legalism. The world that hated Jesus was Jewish legalism. The world that hated the early church was Jewish legalism. The world that persecutes grace is law. They teach a mixed message. When we rely on our behavior as any part of the basis for our confidence toward God, our blessing, our access to the Spirit or miracles, we are preaching a mixed message -- faith in Jesus + faith in our performance. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mark Ledbetter: Thanks, Brad for the fresh insight on the meaning of "the world"... |
| Now I can read these passages properly:For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole Jewish oriented legalism and forfeits his soul? - Mt. 16:26For God so loved the Jewish oriented legalism that He gave His only begotten Son... - John 3:16And Jesus said, For judgment I came into this Jewish oriented legalism... - John 9:39Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the Jewish oriented legalism... - Rom 5:12It is a trustworthy statement, deserving all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the Jewish oriented legalism to save sinners... - 1 Tim 1:15Do not love the Jewish oriented legalism nor the things in the Jewish oriented legalism. If anyone loves the Jewish oriented legalism, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the Jewish oriented legalism is the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the Jewish oriented legalism.Truly I say to you, wherever this gospel is preached in the whole Jewish oriented legalism, what this woman has done will also be spoken of in memory of her. - Matt 26:13First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all, because your faith is being proclaimed throughout the whole Jewish oriented legalism. - Romans 1:8for until the Law sin was in the Jewish oriented legalism, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. - Romans 5:13Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that there is no such thing as an idol in the Jewish oriented legalism, and that there is no God but one. - 1 Corinthians 8:4remember that you were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the Jewish oriented legalism. - Eph 2:12By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, was vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the Jewish oriented legalism, taken up to glory. - 1 Timothy 3:16For the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he would be heir of the Jewish oriented legalism was not through the Law, but through the righteousness of faith. - Romans 4:13This teaching that the world is Jewish oriented legalism is another attempt to read into the Scriptures what is not there. It is a distortion of what the Scriptures teach about separation from the world as the Apostles taught and wrote God-HonoringChrist-CenteredBible-BasedSpirit-Led |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | bradfreeman: Re: Thanks, Brad for the fresh insight on the meaning of "the world"... |
| Your narrow bent is obvious. Clearly, the word world will have different meaning in different contexts. For example:God so loved the world. John 3:16Love not the world. 1 Jn 2:15Why, as though you were living in the world do you obey its rules? Col 2:20Who was the world that hated Jesus? Was it the woman caught in adultery? The woman at the well? Zachzeus? Mary Magdalene? Or the Jewish leadership I'm not saved because I'm good. I'm saved because He's good!My website: www.bradfreeman.comMy blog: bradcfreeman.tumblr.com/ |
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