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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: Dake's views on the Trinity (L) |
| But then the author of the article makes a statement that sounds as strange as those of Dake..... |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: One what. www.equip.org/article/dakes-dangerous-doctrine/________________ |
| Who knows, why dont you ask Dake?I dont know that there are any dake proponents on Acts |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | sheepdogandy: |
| Dake is wrong on several points.The great weight of evidence in the Scriptures declare the Triune understanding of who God is.Read John 17.Joh 17:1 ¶ Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.4 I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do.5 And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.6 ¶ I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.7 Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You.8 For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me.9 I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours.10 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them.11 ¶ Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.13 But now I come to You, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have My joy fulfilled in themselves.14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one.16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.17 ¶ Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.20 ¶ I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;21 |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: |
| So you claim Dake is wrong, but say essentially the same thing he says |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| No wonder posters are leaving. Proponents of this error post it every other day. Folks get tired of seeing the same stuff...by the same posters |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: |
| I am not a Dake proponent |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: |
| Yeah above my pay grade too my friend. Thank God we are not supposed to be as wise, and all knowing as God. I am happy to be worshiping God. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: |
| Jesus was not teaching on the construct of the Godhead in John 17. You seem to be denying, as Dake does, that the persons of the Trinity are one in being |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | sheepdogandy: |
| Then WHO is He praying to? Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: |
| Look. I posted a link to an article from a Trinitarian organization condemning Dake's views as not being orthodox Trinitarian. Are they wrong? Is Dake right?But as to your question, the human Son of God was praying to his Father and God. Because he was abstaining from his divine prerogatives (though he still possessed them) he communicated with God as humans understand communication. Prior to the incarnation, there was no need for any such communication within God's being. The distinctions that may have been in God from eternity past were not communicating with each other back then. The Spirit of God had no instructor, according to Isaiah. God was just God, complete within himself, with no need to counsel with anyone. He was already all knowing. In the incarnation, though Jesus the Son of God knew that the Godhead resided bodily in him, he laid aside the divine prerogatives of omniscience, omnipotence, and omnipresence (though they still resided in him and were at his disposal) and instead limited himself to communication with God as a normal man would |
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