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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Ernie Long: Does obedience to God lead to faith in God |
| does faith in God lead to obedience to God? |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Charles Page: |
| Yes, if you are Calvinist. if you are a moderate Calvinist ala John Piper - faith and obedience work simultaneously. I believe that faith comes by hearing. The capacity to hear is first and hearing is the result and our choosing to believe ensues. Faith comes by obedience to what we hear.The capacity to hear is the gift of God and not faith as the Calvinist insist |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | diakoneo: Asked a different way |
| You obey because you have faith. Obedience is the result of faith. The fruit of faith. We love because he first loved us. 1 John 4:19 |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Charles Page: So even the faith we have came from God. |
| faith without works is dead!dead faith = unproductive, impoten |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: Re: does faith in God lead to obedience to God? |
| Brief yet concise analysis of the Calvinistic view. You are regenerated that you might have faith and repent. Nonsense |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Charles Page: You are regenerated that you might have faith and repent. Nonsense. |
| nonsense, agreeyou have life due to the new birth and with life you have restored will to choose and faith follows hearing and obeying.the Wesleyans call this giving of life to choose prevenient grace -a semipelagian view |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | bradfreeman: |
| Faith IS new covenant obedience.Unbelief IS new covenant disobedience I'm not saved because I'm good. I'm saved because He's good!My website: www.bradfreeman.comMy blog: bradcfreeman.tumblr.com/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Charles Page: |
| can a born again person live in covenant disobedienceIsn't this a way of life for most evangelicals/pentecostals |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | bradfreeman: |
| I don't think a born again person can persist in unbelief (covenant disobedience).Faith is a way of life. How does a righteous man live?Gal 3:11...The righteous man shall live by faith. I'm not saved because I'm good. I'm saved because He's good!My website: www.bradfreeman.comMy blog: bradcfreeman.tumblr.com/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Charles Page: |
| You stay saved because you are good!!! right |
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