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Author:	acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:	sheepdogandy: Law or Grace?

I preached on this very topic yesterday morning.If you are interested, you can hear it for yourself.Just go to the web site listed below and click on the sermons tab. Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church

Author:	acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:	Cojak: Re: Law or Grace?

Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

Author:	acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:	Isa 58:12:

ðŸ¤” Shalom, I have finally listened to ur teaching sheepdogandy, & just wanted to point something's out. U used the verse John 1:17, u emphasized the word but Grace & Truth... Andy, that word but was placed there by man Another thing was u spoke about the great silence between Old & New Testaments, which is True, but did the prophet Malachi say before this great silence? Mal 4:4; Remember You The Law (Torah/Instructions) of Moses My servant, which I Commanded unto him in Horeb for ALL Y'srael with Statutes and JudgementsWhat was the point of Y'shua fulfilling the Law so u could eat a ham sandwich everyday? What was the purpose, so u could fill ur belly with what G-d calls an abomination? I now u read that as ur going through the Bible. U say Y'shua fulfilled the Law of G-d, Y'shua is G-d, or are there 2 doing 2 different things? Do u believe He is G-d, the Great I Am, from Everlasting to Everlasting, the 1st & the last etc? Because if u do (u should) ur sermon is ur sermon, G-d had no part, that's not who He is....U talk about how it's the Spirit who gives *life*, & that's True, He is the Living Word/Torah which has *life* to those that keep it Dt 30:19-20. The Law is Spiritual Rom 7:14, His Spirit will lead *us* into ALL Truth, Truth is His TorahðŸ˜‹I have many other things to discuss with u, but I will leave on this note: in ur good news section with ur faith statement, u used Isa 7:9;.... If you will not believe, surely you shall not be established & then u give 3 great Webster's definitions for establish....Rom 3:31; do we then make void the Law through faith? G-d forbid yes, we establish the LawðŸ˜‰ Ps 122:6

Author:	acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:	sheepdogandy:

OK now share the rest of it.In context please. Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church

Author:	acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:	Isa 58:12:

Andy, believe me I can, but that's not the purpose. Just the few things I pointed out, & that was in the beginning, shouldn't concern u, doesn't it? Doesn't that bother u that ur not telling people total Truth' Way about the L-rd? Do ur history, in the Book of Acts they were known as the people of the Way. John the Baptist, prepare you the Way....'6There is a *way* that *seems* right unto man but in the end thereof are the *ways* of death Prov 14:12.... Please, repent, seek the L-rd & His Righteousness & u shall be filled. Don't be one sheppard's with ear tickling messages 2 Tim 4:3Jer 3:15; & I will give you pastors according to *My* heart, which shall feed you with the Knowledge and Understanding. Thats all the Book of Prov, example chapters 1-4... Knowledge & Understanding of G-ds Torah which are His Instructions for Life Dt 30:19-20, which is His heart Jer 3:15+ all of Ps 119. According to Jewish understanding the heart of YHVH is the TorahNotice that G-d says He's going to give you Shepherds according to His heart not according to your heart, ur knowledge & understanding. G-d always works through His sheppard's that speaks of His heartThere are of course sheppard's that are not of His heart, & u unfortunately have that responsibility to figure out which is right, in all the text of the Bible, not according to the last preacher sermons and denominational standardsThat's the shepherd's responsibility, to give Knowledge and Understanding of G-ds heart, Ways, His Torah. His shepherds are Torah teachers, now with the faith in Y'shua to live like He did& U never answered it, & u don't have to, but I want u to think about what the question I gave you about why would Y'shua deliver you from the food Laws, what was the purpose of Him delivering you from abomination of pigs that you can eat it now? Or what was the purpose of changing the Sabbath day, u keep sunday? Can talk all day on this message, because it deals with the heart. Back in Jeremiah's Days, Old Testament days, there was a lot of rebellion no one wanted to hear their message, or Moshes message or the apostles message of keeping Torah.....I pray G-d will open our hearts, to see something that has been replaced, and we need to repent and come back, restore to the ancient paths that have been lost Isa 58:12 Ps 122:6

Author:	acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:	sheepdogandy:

Galatians 2:11Now when Peter had come to Antioch, I withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed;12 for before certain men came from James, he would eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing those who were of the circumcision.13 And the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy.14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you compel Gentiles to live as Jews?15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is Christ therefore a minister of sin? Certainly not!18 For if I build again those things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.19 For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God.20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.Touchdown o Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church

Author:	acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:	Da Sheik:

Itâ€™s so sad. Proponents of the law point to all of the Old Testament heroes of the faith. Reading Hebrews chapter 11 is very clear. All of those heroes of the OT looked forward to

Author:	acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:	Dave Dorsey:

I agree. I would like to talk more about the Third Use of the Law on this forum, and I have some threads I'd like to post on that subject. I think it's an excellent topic for Christians to discuss. But that topic is discussed in and through Christ.All I ever see in Isa 58:12's posts is Moshe and the Torah. I never see anything about Jesus, except as someone whose work enabled us to access the real grace in Moshe and the Torah. It is tragic and sad.The Law is holy and good, but as with everything else, it can only be approached and understood through Christ. It seems Isa 58:12

Author:	acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:	Cojak:

Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

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