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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Tom Sterbens: It's Not Saturday! |
| Dr Marty Baker put a splinter in brain on Monday and ruined the sermon I already had prepared for today! (Hate that guy!) He asked me if I had ever considered the silence of Saturday after the cross. I said, Wow! No I haven't. What a thought!And so all week long the splinter...worked on me! |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: |
| Quote TS:The Gardener had indeed returned to The Garden!End quote...SWEET my friend SWEET indeed. That is the kind of seed planting I really believe in.. (I meat the thought planting but I see it two ways now! Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Isa 58:12: |
| Shalom Tom, can you explain to me what you get out of this please? Because G-d gave a double portion Manna in the wilderness on Shabbat and Y'shua did more healings and miracles on Shabbat, so I'm puzzled by what you think the meaning of this is. Shalo Ps 122:6 |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Tom Sterbens: |
| First - I have no idea what you are talking about.Second - it is poetic.It is a sort of watercolor backdrop of possibilities.It is not an attempt to rewrite theology or challenge creed.Really, at the core of it is something that started with me several years ago when I noted the first time ruach (Spirit/spirit/breath/blow/wind) appears in scripture is Genesis 1:2(Spirit).The second time it appears is in Genesis 3:8, ...cool of the day... I mused over that for some time.Over the last several months (and much, much more scriptural reflection) I began to consider the possibility of cool being the linguistic implication of existential effect of wind blowing or blowing on something...i.e. it is cool. The word that follows it is the word most typically used representing a period of time. My question was: Could this not be translated Spirit Time? It sort of takes off from there...I won't bore you with it.Nonetheless - my point in writing all the unrelated stuff I just wrote is to simply say...what I wrote had nothing whatsoever to do with challenging any view of the sabbath. Scripture says He (God) rested on the seventh day. That's all. He was creating (thus, poetically, He wasn't speaking). On the Saturday after the cross (whatever day one thinks the crucifixion happened) heaven was indeed silent again... That's all. On the first day of the week Christ was risen from the dead. That's all.You may indeed be able to make this yet another anvil on which to continue to hammer out your well established point of conviction regarding Torah, but it is not one I will engage any further than this. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Isa 58:12: |
| First - I have no idea what you are talking about.Second - it is poetic.It is a sort of watercolor backdrop of possibilities.It is not an attempt to rewrite theology or challenge creed.Really, at the core of it is something that started with me several years ago when I noted the first time ruach (Spirit/spirit/breath/blow/wind) appears in scripture is Genesis 1:2(Spirit).The second time it appears is in Genesis 3:8, ...cool of the day... I mused over that for some time.Over the last several months (and much, much more scriptural reflection) I began to consider the possibility of cool being the linguistic implication of existential effect of wind blowing or blowing on something...i.e. it is cool. The word that follows it is the word most typically used representing a period of time. My question was: Could this not be translated Spirit Time? It sort of takes off from there...I won't bore you with it.Nonetheless - my point in writing all the unrelated stuff I just wrote is to simply say...what I wrote had nothing whatsoever to do with challenging any view of the sabbath. Scripture says He (God) rested on the seventh day. That's all. He was creating (thus, poetically, He wasn't speaking). On the Saturday after the cross (whatever day one thinks the crucifixion happened) heaven was indeed silent again... That's all. On the first day of the week Christ was risen from the dead. That's all.You may indeed be able to make this yet another anvil on which to continue to hammer out your well established point of conviction regarding Torah, but it is not one I will engage any further than this.Thanks Well I'm sorry I asked the question Tom, wasn't meant for me looking for my anvil. When I read it, it seemed to me that u were saying G-d does nothing on Shabbat, but He moves on the 1st day etc... Ps 122:6 |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Carolyn Smith: Re: It's Not Saturday! |
| Really good stuff...thought-provoking, Tom!This part caught my attention. Really? Joseph of Arimathea's tomb was in a garden? I've never heard that...or maybe you are taking this from Mary's mistaking Him to be the gardener? Hmmm... More of Him...less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Tom Sterbens: |
| First - I have no idea what you are talking about.Second - it is poetic.It is a sort of watercolor backdrop of possibilities.It is not an attempt to rewrite theology or challenge creed.Really, at the core of it is something that started with me several years ago when I noted the first time ruach (Spirit/spirit/breath/blow/wind) appears in scripture is Genesis 1:2(Spirit).The second time it appears is in Genesis 3:8, ...cool of the day... I mused over that for some time.Over the last several months (and much, much more scriptural reflection) I began to consider the possibility of cool being the linguistic implication of existential effect of wind blowing or blowing on something...i.e. it is cool. The word that follows it is the word most typically used representing a period of time. My question was: Could this not be translated Spirit Time? It sort of takes off from there...I won't bore you with it.Nonetheless - my point in writing all the unrelated stuff I just wrote is to simply say...what I wrote had nothing whatsoever to do with challenging any view of the sabbath. Scripture says He (God) rested on the seventh day. That's all. He was creating (thus, poetically, He wasn't speaking). On the Saturday after the cross (whatever day one thinks the crucifixion happened) heaven was indeed silent again... That's all. On the first day of the week Christ was risen from the dead. That's all.You may indeed be able to make this yet another anvil on which to continue to hammer out your well established point of conviction regarding Torah, but it is not one I will engage any further than this.Thanks Well I'm sorry I asked the question Tom, wasn't meant for me looking for my anvil. When I read it, it seemed to me that u were saying G-d does nothing on Shabbat, but He moves on the 1st day etc.... Classically bad response on my part...a combination of a tired mind and assumption - something I try hard to never do. That was unfair to you...please accept my apology.I was not making any mechanical theological point at all. I was exploring the narrative - that's all. But then scripture seems to supply the latitude to do that very thing. What I mean is, for example: I'm certain God did not rest in the sense that humans do since He does not grow weary, at all, ever...and yet He gave those words to us. Nor do I believe in the most technical of senses that God was technically silent and motionless on the Saturday prior to resurrection.It's poetry and narrative. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Tom Sterbens: Re: It's Not Saturday! |
| Really good stuff...thought-provoking, Tom!This part caught my attention. Really? Joseph of Arimathea's tomb was in a garden? I've never heard that...or maybe you are taking this from Mary's mistaking Him to be the gardener? Hmmm.... John 19:40 |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Carolyn Smith: Re: It's Not Saturday! |
| Really good stuff...thought-provoking, Tom!This part caught my attention. Really? Joseph of Arimathea's tomb was in a garden? I've never heard that...or maybe you are taking this from Mary's mistaking Him to be the gardener? Hmmm.... John 19:40 |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: Thanks________________More of Him...less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name |
| Good stuff.Thanks for sharing |
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