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A few thoughts on WoF absurdity
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Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Da Sheik: A few thoughts on WoF absurdity
Many WoF teachers proclaim that Jesus was wealthy and lived an opulent lifestyle. Let's consider a few factors:Christ was born in a stable. At His circumcision, Joseph and Mary offered turtledoves (a poor person's sacrifice who couldn't afford a lamb according to Lev 12:8). Christ borrowed a boat to preach from. When it was time to pay the temple tax, He sent Peter fishing. When the multitudes were hungry He didn't send Phillip into town (remember Phillip was concerned how to finance the meal). Judas was the treasurer of the group and
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Dave Dorsey:
I was just thinking today about the same kind of thread! The WoF folks have retorts to just about any Scriptural objection you can raise. You could see this in the Copeland video when the reporter mentioned Matthew 19:24.
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  brotherjames: You might want to check the archives
We've discussed WoF doctrines extensively here. Just look up any OTCP archive. In addition, whatever Copeland's lifestyle may or not be and however offensive you may or may not find it, for the most part the prosperity gospel as preached in the eighties is not really the main thrust of WoF doctrine today.
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  brotherjames: **
I for one eschew lavish lifestyles
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  brotherjames:
and have always been concerned about how our ministry and lives reveal Jesus to an unsaved world.
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Bro Bob:
Re: I for one eschew lavish lifestyles
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Dave Dorsey:
Interesting. What's your biblical basis for preaching that poverty is a curse?And if being rich isn't a sign of God's favor, why is being poor a sign of His disfavor/curse?Why would God consider alms for the impoverished a gift to Him, if they are under a curse? (Proverbs 19:17)Why would He command His people to be generous to them, if they are cursed? (Deut 15:11)Why would God consider the oppression of the poor an insult to Himself, if the poor are that way because they are cursed? (Proverbs 14:31, 17:5)Why does He maintain their cause, and execute justice for them? (Psalm 140:12)Why is He a stronghold to people who are cursed? (Isa 25:4)This list of questions could go on for pages.When we open our mouths, we are commanded to judge righteously and defend the rights of the poor and needy (Proverbs 31:8-9), not pronounce them as being under a curse. In fact, the Scripture says it is he who hides his eyes from the poor who is cursed (Proverbs 28:27
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Dave Dorsey:
Or how about Peter in Matthew 16:22
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  brotherjames: As having a share of the blessings of God as one grafted into the tree
Of Father Abraham it certainly seems to me that these verses apply to Christian'sDeu. 28:The Covenant Blessings1 “If you indeed obey the LORD your God and are careful to observe all his commandments I am giving you today, the LORD your God will elevate you above all the nations of the earth.2 All these blessings will come to you in abundance if you obey the LORD your God:3 You will be blessed in the city and blessed in the field.4 Your children will be blessed, as well as the produce of your soil, the offspring of your livestock, the calves of your herds, and the lambs of your flocks.5 Your basket and your mixing bowl will be blessed.6 You will be blessed when you come in and blessed when you go out.7 The LORD will cause your enemies who attack you to be struck down before you; they will attack you from one direction but flee from you in seven different directions.8 The LORD will decree blessing for you with respect to your barns and in everything you do – yes, he will bless you in the land he is giving you.9 The LORD will designate you as his holy people just as he promised you, if you keep his commandments and obey him.10 Then all the peoples of the earth will see that you belong to the LORD, and they will respect you.11 The LORD will greatly multiply your children, the offspring of your livestock, and the produce of your soil in the land which he promised your ancestors he would give you.12 The LORD will open for you his good treasure house, the heavens, to give you rain for the land in its season and to bless all you do; you will lend to many nations but you will not borrow from any.
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Dave Dorsey:
Lol I am talking to a friend about this thread and a few minutes ago I told him, Deuteronomy 28incoming.
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