I Thess 5:23 May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (NIV)
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I Thess 5:23 May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (NIV)
Da Sheik…
I have thought about the fact that while God is a SPIRIT, Jesus became BODY. I don’t put a lot of stock in either the standard Trinitarian position or the Oneness position. BOTH are sorely lacking once you start questioning them in depth or pointing out scriptures that seem to need, over and over and over, to be explained away, but I do believe both are well-intentioned.Here’s what I do KNOW from scripture: There is one God. He has an Only Begotten Son, Jesus, in whom all the fullness of the Godhead dwelleth bodily. That the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God and the Spirit of Jesus. The biggest problem is having to explain that what WE mean by One God is not what anyone else would mean by One God.If the Hindus with their million gods said, There is really ONE GOD, these are all just separate persons of the ONE GOD, we’d laugh at them. But as soon as they say, No, wait, we were wrong…there’s only three persons that are the ONE GOD, we say, Well, that works, then.It’s a MYSTERY. We try to explain it at our peril…and our the cost of unity. If we will say ONLY what the scriptures say–that there is ONE GOD and Jesus is His ONLY SON–we could end a lot of the debate.
Re: I believe
What does this mean?
If something is divided asunder it must have been united…Though I am sure there is much more to it than that. I will dig deeper, but that is my initial response and simple (I am probably too simple
There must be some discernible difference for it to be worded as such. More than mere egg yolk and white making the egg, because it takes the word of God to divide it.It is mysterious. Perhaps like the trinity.
I’ve seen it taught, usually by charismatics, that the soul (the mind, will and emotions) is the non-bodily human side of your nature, while the spirit is that part which is dead to God before it is born again/made alive by the Spirit of God. The fact that everyone has a mind, will and emotions whether they are born again or not is given as proof that the soul is the human (or even ‘carnal’) side of your nature. Many who teach the tripartite nature of man in this way will use the terms, soulish and carnal or sinful interchangeably. The goal then for the believer is to learn by the word of God to discern between soul and spirit; i.e., soulish thoughts, impulses and desires vs. thoughts, impulses and desires that are the voice of the Holy Spirit within the believer.
Quiet Wyatt raises an excellent point. Is the intent to prove that you can do anything in the body and it not affect the spirit? And Diakoneo I am content with the mystery as long as it satisfies that which is revealed. Thanks for your replies !
God’s house:Holiest place – innermost being (spirit) sinless and perfectInner court – inner man (soul) needs refreshed (daily bread), refilled (oil in the lamp stand) and refocused (incense from the sacrifice firing worship)Outer court – outer man (body________________I’m not saved because I’m good. I’m saved because He’s good!My website: http://www.bradfreeman.comMy blog: bradcfreeman.tumblr.com/
I feel I Thessalonians 5 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ does distinguish a difference between soul and spirit. The word Wholly seems to indicate separate parts along with the Greek word pneuma for spirit and psyche for soul. Hebrews 4:12(KJV) seems to confirm: For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart-psyches and pneumatos for soul and spirit. I do see many times in the OT and NT where spirit and soul are used without regards to a big distinction between them. I do my best to be teachable and am not a doctorate level person of the Greek and Hebrew so if anybody can explain why soul and spirit are so interchangeable at times and yet separated in these two verses I would appreciate the knowledge.