In Biblical times? In the 1800s? What do you think________________
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Very good question, it is hard for one who was never in a position to even care for an extra human being other than family, to know the feeling of ‘owning’ someone.Evidently it was not considered so in Biblical times, the scripture does not ‘condone’ it in my mind, but does ‘order’ kindness of master and slave methinks.But I am not a scholar. So all I can say about the 1800s is once it was against the law, then yes I think it could be a sin, that would be breaking the law and we are encouraged to follow those methinks again.But all that is just off the top of my head, but it is still a good question. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Perhaps American Slavery started as indentured servitude. For passage to America, folks agreed to work for a master for 4-7 years, much as Jacob did for Leah, etc…Whites and blacks signed up. After a while, some joker’s decided, why let them go after 7 years…in fact, why make them sign a contract…most of them are unlearned savages, why not just take them from their home.From Virginia State website:
This statement is absolutely gross. In my opinion, it represents rank racism and is incompatible with any claim to the name of Christ. I think your statement represents ranks ignorance, my brother. The race of those who are descendants of slaves is irrelevant. Their actions and collective attitudes are indeed relevant and are a matter of public record. Your knee-jerk jump at the race card is quite troubling. As for those who think our Civil War was God’s way of punishing slavery, I must ask them, why would God punish the USA who had one of the most benevolent slave systems ever known to man, and in particular among western hemisphere nations who participated in the African slave trade? Why was Brazil spared his holy wrath and indignation? After all, 48% of all slaves imported to the Americas from Africa went to Brazil, a nation that liteally worked them to death, and bought more as they were needed to replace those who had died. The USA imported just 6% of all African slaves sent to the Americas and set up a family-oriented system. Were some American slaves treated poorly? Yes. Is slavery an unnatural state, even if it designed to be benevolent? Yes. But if God is going to punish nations who partook in it, he sure picked the wrong one to kill 600,000 of its young men________________
Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, 10the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality,
As for the original question:I believe that in America, after publishing the Declaration of Independence – stating that all men are created equal by the Creator – from that time forward it was a sin to enslave another person in this nation.Perhaps we had more light revealed to us than others in previous times.Better to have not said you will do something – than to say it and not live up to it________________
Are you saying that God had nothing to do with, or was not interested in freeing slaves, or that He made a mistake out of poor foresight? I think the freeing of the slaves was incidental, and that God’s greater purpose was keeping the American Empire together as one nation (though secession was not illegal). In my opinion, blacks were not completely freed until the 1960’s. Sadly, they chose the wrong path collectively from that point. I know some take great offense at me saying such a thing. I’m only repeating what black scholars like Shelby Steele and Thomas Sowell have said________________
I have never heard anyone say the CivilWar was God’s punishment for slavery.but then I sorta live under a rock. I have honestly NEVER heard that. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Very good question, it is hard for one who was never in a position to even care for an extra human being other than family, to know the feeling of ‘owning’ someone.Evidently it was not considered so in Biblical times, the scripture does not ‘condone’ it in my mind, but does ‘order’ kindness of master and slave methinks.But I am not a scholar. So all I can say about the 1800s is once it was against the law, then yes I think it could be a sin, that would be breaking the law and we are encouraged to follow those methinks again.But all that is just off the top of my head, but it is still a good question. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Perhaps American Slavery started as indentured servitude. For passage to America, folks agreed to work for a master for 4-7 years, much as Jacob did for Leah, etc…Whites and blacks signed up. After a while, some joker’s decided, why let them go after 7 years…in fact, why make them sign a contract…most of them are unlearned savages, why not just take them from their home.From Virginia State website:
Only whites owning blacks is evil. The rest is ok, apparently________________
I think Lincoln said it very well (I admit I have very mixed feelings on Lincoln, but this is one speech that I do admire)
I think Lincoln said it very well (I admit I have very mixed feelings on Lincoln, but this is one speech that I do admire)
I think Lincoln said it very well (I admit I have very mixed feelings on Lincoln, but this is one speech that I do admire)
Re: Is/was it a sin to own slaves?
This statement is absolutely gross. In my opinion, it represents rank racism and is incompatible with any claim to the name of Christ. I think your statement represents ranks ignorance, my brother. The race of those who are descendants of slaves is irrelevant. Their actions and collective attitudes are indeed relevant and are a matter of public record. Your knee-jerk jump at the race card is quite troubling. As for those who think our Civil War was God’s way of punishing slavery, I must ask them, why would God punish the USA who had one of the most benevolent slave systems ever known to man, and in particular among western hemisphere nations who participated in the African slave trade? Why was Brazil spared his holy wrath and indignation? After all, 48% of all slaves imported to the Americas from Africa went to Brazil, a nation that liteally worked them to death, and bought more as they were needed to replace those who had died. The USA imported just 6% of all African slaves sent to the Americas and set up a family-oriented system. Were some American slaves treated poorly? Yes. Is slavery an unnatural state, even if it designed to be benevolent? Yes. But if God is going to punish nations who partook in it, he sure picked the wrong one to kill 600,000 of its young men________________
Is/was it a sin to own slaves?What about Philemon?
________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, 10the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality,
As for the original question:I believe that in America, after publishing the Declaration of Independence – stating that all men are created equal by the Creator – from that time forward it was a sin to enslave another person in this nation.Perhaps we had more light revealed to us than others in previous times.Better to have not said you will do something – than to say it and not live up to it________________
Resident…
That is a reasonable statement________________
Are you saying that God had nothing to do with, or was not interested in freeing slaves, or that He made a mistake out of poor foresight? I think the freeing of the slaves was incidental, and that God’s greater purpose was keeping the American Empire together as one nation (though secession was not illegal). In my opinion, blacks were not completely freed until the 1960’s. Sadly, they chose the wrong path collectively from that point. I know some take great offense at me saying such a thing. I’m only repeating what black scholars like Shelby Steele and Thomas Sowell have said________________
I have never heard anyone say the CivilWar was God’s punishment for slavery.but then I sorta live under a rock. I have honestly NEVER heard that. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
It is interesting that Paul the Apostle, in 1 Tim 1
But not slave owners. Else, he would have condemned many church members of that day________________