Maybe not the best virtue to PRETEND Christianity, but when an entire front row of presidents and spouses are all reciting the Apostles Creed and singing hymns at a state funeral, you would at least think he could fake it! But no, our President is so far above the other presidents and even God, that he doesn’t dare utter praise to anyone other than himself. I guess that’s why we aren’t surprised, when asked at Thanksgiving, what are you thankful for Mr. President? And he answered Me. But again, this is the guy who said he didn’t know of anything of which he needed to ask God’s forgiveness. Wow! The hubris of this man.
Why would you want anyone to pretend to be a Christian? Is it just so he will look like he cares? What good does that really do? I don’t care for the man, but that doesn’t mean I want him parading around like he is a God fearing man when he obviously isn’t. He is who he is, and short of conversion he will never be anything else. It is fruitless to wish anything more from him. He will never fit the mold of a traditional president, whatever that is, so there is no point in being disappointed in his actions. He was elected warts and all, and it’s pretty obvious that having the title to the highest office in the nation doesn’t change that fact________________“Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”
Because you are in a church. Because you are at a Christian funeral. Because you are the President of the United States; in God we Trust – remember. Because you were voted into office by Evangelical Christians and they are watching you on TV. Because you have said and may God bless the United States of America on several occasions. Because we are told you are a Christian. The greater question is WHY DID HE NOT sing the songs of the church and repeat the Apostle’s Creed? What is going on in his head that he, as a Presbyterian, did not need to do that? He made the choice NOT to participate. Why?BTW – Pretend to be a Christian is not the best way to make my point. I should have said can’t he just go with the flow. When in Rome…
There’s absolutely nothing that 45 cultists won’t defend. This thread should be good!Maybe Trump’s a Nicene guy, and that’s the explanation his evangelical defenders will offer.
Right, exactly. After all, nobody reads the Bible more than Trump, according to Trump (www.christianheadlines.com/blog/donald-trump-nobody-reads-the-bible-more-than-me.html). After all, 100 leading evangelical ministers gave Trump a signed Bible with the inscription
babylonbee.com/news/winning-trump-memorized-the-whole-apostles-creed-and-recited-it-quietly-in-his-head-so-as-not-to-draw-attention-to-himself
I cannot side with a platform that embraces most every godless act. That is the democrats.
Are the Clintons and the Obamas genuine believers? I don’t know. But they at least come from Christian traditions, especially the Clintons, who have been Baptists (Bill) and Methodists (Hillary) all of their lives. Obama came to Christian faith later in life, but still has a lineage of practice in the Christian tradition, unlike Trump who by his own admission has never repented to God for anything and is not, according to the pastors of the church, an active member of the church he claims to attend.In 2008, Obama told Christianity Today, I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life.Donald Trump, when defending his statement about not repenting, said Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes? I work hard, I’m an honorable person.
Are the Clintons and the Obamas genuine believers? I don’t know. But they at least come from Christian traditions, especially the Clintons, who have been Baptists (Bill) and Methodists (Hillary) all of their lives. Obama came to Christian faith later in life, but still has a lineage of practice in the Christian tradition, unlike Trump who by his own admission has never repented to God for anything and is not, according to the pastors of the church, an active member of the church he claims to attend.In 2008, Obama told Christianity Today, I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life.Donald Trump, when defending his statement about not repenting, said Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes? I work hard, I’m an honorable person.One of these two men is viewed as an evangelical savior; the other is viewed by many evangelicals as an anti-christ. You’ll never guess which is which. The question is asked:would you rather have someone say they would do something for you that you needed done – and then didn’t do it;orhave someone say they couldn’t do it – but then got it done?Morons get this question and answer wrong________________
Re: I don’t defend Trump….on some things you cannot…it’s the platform…
I suspect a moron would be the only person who could even attempt to understand such an incoherent question and post. Try again, maybe? I certainly consider you to be the moron expert around here Dave________________
Re: I don’t defend Trump….on some things you cannot…it’s the platform…
Are the Clintons and the Obamas genuine believers? I don’t know. But they at least come from Christian traditions, especially the Clintons, who have been Baptists (Bill) and Methodists (Hillary) all of their lives. Obama came to Christian faith later in life, but still has a lineage of practice in the Christian tradition, unlike Trump who by his own admission has never repented to God for anything and is not, according to the pastors of the church, an active member of the church he claims to attend.In 2008, Obama told Christianity Today, I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life.Donald Trump, when defending his statement about not repenting, said Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes? I work hard, I’m an honorable person.One of these two men is viewed as an evangelical savior; the other is viewed by many evangelicals as an anti-christ. You’ll never guess which is which.
I’m guessing. He knows he was not wanted there to begin with but knew the hit the fan thing would happen if he did not attend. It is also possible/probable he didn’t know the songs or creed to recite. Can you imagine the news reports the ‘lip readers’ could have come up with. Repeating the wrong words or stammering.I just read a headline on the internet that read something like this:Here is what the lip readers report the heads of state talked about during the funeral!It is pitiful in this world today that ‘sports coaches must cover their mouths when talking to a player or on the phone. Or that EVERYONE in the spot light must have the correct facial expressions, hundreds of cameras just looking for that ONE ‘sneer, frown or grin’ used at the WRONG TIME.I didn’t know if Trump attended until later. I was glad he did, even for looks alone. He doesn’t choose to satisfy me and he certainly will not satisfy anyone who is looking for reasons to criticize, he does give a lot of opportunities for that.He actually amazes me. I would take my family and go enjoy life . I don’t even like it when folks criticize my pastor, even when he occasionally sorta asks for it. Like we all do. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
What I don’t understand is why he wouldn’t be smart enough to know that he would be criticized for it.. I just don’t get it. Again, had it been Clinton or Obama, the religious right-wing evangelical would have gone beeeeserck.
Oh For Joy! Obama, the greatest Christian president of all time, recited the Apostles Creed! Now that makes up for all his efforts to kill babies, steel money from the people, fund terrorism, fight against the Constitution, shut down small business, force Christians to make gay-cakes! Praise Be! He knows the Creed!! WHOOOOP-TI-DOO!I attend a non-creedal denomination, and won’t recite a Roman Catholic creed either. Guess my denomination isn’t good enough for the superior Christians that need to see the great Obama to feel good. I’ll see if I can get them to promote LGBTQ/abortion, etc.. to make the real Christians happy.
Would be