This is a good article, IMO — and hopefully we’ll see some court rulings or legislation correcting this:
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They can quit and get a new job.Putting faith in the govt. – I could have told them that was a bad idea.In seriousness, I thought essential personnel were still getting paid________________
That’s true, they can quit and get a new job — but that’s not a win for anyone either, them or their organization when it eventually gets funded again.
In the private sector, you can get laid off/fired in most states for no reason. You can get pay cuts for no reason. You can get forced furloughs without any recourse (happens to me usually around Christmas). So there are numerous risks one must take and accept to have an at-will employment in the private sector.In the public sector, there are MUCH fewer risks, but unfortunately, federal budgets is the big one. That can and does happen from time to time, but fortunately, they will eventually get paid (unless their dept is cut).
Yes – they can always quit. No one is saying otherwise.However, under no circumstances should an employer be able to require attendance and work without pay. If they’re essential and must work, pay them. If they are non-essential and can be furloughed, furlough them. If employees are not happy being furloughed and want to quit and get new jobs, then they should do so.
I’m really surprised I haven’t seen more of this in the news. If someone was going to attack the shutdown from the standpoint of human empathy/interest, contractors are in a MUCH worse place than federal workers.
I’m really surprised I haven’t seen more of this in the news. If someone was going to attack the shutdown from the standpoint of human empathy/interest, contractors are in a MUCH worse place than federal workers.Federal workers might get a hit on their credit report for being late on the mortgage, but they’ll be able to catch up as soon as they get their backpay. Contractors will remain behind indefinitely. But I’ve seen almost nothing in the news about contractors. The NYT had a short piece over the weekend, but that’s it. Where is your empathy for the families of the 4000 people killed by illegal immigrants last year? I thought you’d at least feel empathy for the non-white victims________________
I know I sound unsympathetic, I really don’t mean to be because I do sympathize with the situation. BUT WE ALL KNOW IT IS TEMPORARY. Comparing this to slavery is a STRETCH! Slavery you can be punished physically even killed at the SLAVERs will.If the TSA worker (or any worker) doesn’t like the AGREEMENT, it is most likely they wouldn’t lose their jobs to begin with.This ls like saying the DRAFT in WWII was forced labor, forced pay cuts etc.Understandings, choices and agreements ARE NOT SLAVERY by any stretch of the imagination. Slavery there is NO CHOICE but possibly life or death! ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
You will recall that Reagan fired the air traffic controllers. When a person has a federal job (with all the perks that involves), part of the downside is that, yes, you can be susceptible to the back and forth of politics.
I have been a land lord, like many friends and property managers, if you have a good tenant, you bend a lot to keep them. Most managers have some leeway. They also know this is not permanent.Loan payments, no one likes to miss a payment, but there again it the record is good, no one will foreclose for one missed payment me thinks.In the majority of cases this situation is WELL KNOWN and unless a land lord or lender is looking for a reason to move someone most likely there will be tolerance.Of course having dealt with civil service workers, I KNOW first hand how hard it is for them to LOSE a job. The jobs and back pay will be there eventually. during that time many are working for cash on fill in jobs. I am just wondering who is going to give……….. The media can find a case for their position I am sure, that the country if gong down the tubes, etc. I am not convinced yet! JM________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
They can quit and get a new job.Putting faith in the govt. – I could have told them that was a bad idea.In seriousness, I thought essential personnel were still getting paid________________
That’s true, they can quit and get a new job — but that’s not a win for anyone either, them or their organization when it eventually gets funded again.
In the private sector, you can get laid off/fired in most states for no reason. You can get pay cuts for no reason. You can get forced furloughs without any recourse (happens to me usually around Christmas). So there are numerous risks one must take and accept to have an at-will employment in the private sector.In the public sector, there are MUCH fewer risks, but unfortunately, federal budgets is the big one. That can and does happen from time to time, but fortunately, they will eventually get paid (unless their dept is cut).
Yes – they can always quit. No one is saying otherwise.However, under no circumstances should an employer be able to require attendance and work without pay. If they’re essential and must work, pay them. If they are non-essential and can be furloughed, furlough them. If employees are not happy being furloughed and want to quit and get new jobs, then they should do so.
I’m really surprised I haven’t seen more of this in the news. If someone was going to attack the shutdown from the standpoint of human empathy/interest, contractors are in a MUCH worse place than federal workers.
I’m really surprised I haven’t seen more of this in the news. If someone was going to attack the shutdown from the standpoint of human empathy/interest, contractors are in a MUCH worse place than federal workers.Federal workers might get a hit on their credit report for being late on the mortgage, but they’ll be able to catch up as soon as they get their backpay. Contractors will remain behind indefinitely. But I’ve seen almost nothing in the news about contractors. The NYT had a short piece over the weekend, but that’s it. Where is your empathy for the families of the 4000 people killed by illegal immigrants last year? I thought you’d at least feel empathy for the non-white victims________________
Pretty ugly stuff, RS. You should know________________
I know I sound unsympathetic, I really don’t mean to be because I do sympathize with the situation. BUT WE ALL KNOW IT IS TEMPORARY. Comparing this to slavery is a STRETCH! Slavery you can be punished physically even killed at the SLAVERs will.If the TSA worker (or any worker) doesn’t like the AGREEMENT, it is most likely they wouldn’t lose their jobs to begin with.This ls like saying the DRAFT in WWII was forced labor, forced pay cuts etc.Understandings, choices and agreements ARE NOT SLAVERY by any stretch of the imagination. Slavery there is NO CHOICE but possibly life or death! ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
You will recall that Reagan fired the air traffic controllers. When a person has a federal job (with all the perks that involves), part of the downside is that, yes, you can be susceptible to the back and forth of politics.
I have been a land lord, like many friends and property managers, if you have a good tenant, you bend a lot to keep them. Most managers have some leeway. They also know this is not permanent.Loan payments, no one likes to miss a payment, but there again it the record is good, no one will foreclose for one missed payment me thinks.In the majority of cases this situation is WELL KNOWN and unless a land lord or lender is looking for a reason to move someone most likely there will be tolerance.Of course having dealt with civil service workers, I KNOW first hand how hard it is for them to LOSE a job. The jobs and back pay will be there eventually. during that time many are working for cash on fill in jobs. I am just wondering who is going to give……….. The media can find a case for their position I am sure, that the country if gong down the tubes, etc. I am not convinced yet! JM________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/