……there was a great amount of fawning over him rejecting the prosperity gospel……we’ve failed to hear the rest of the story…
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……there was a great amount of fawning over him rejecting the prosperity gospel……we’ve failed to hear the rest of the story…
As Costi Hinn said in the days following his uncle’s statement, time and repentance go hand in hand. If Benny Hinn has truly repented, in the months and years ahead he will bear fruit in keeping with that repentance.
I’d also note that we have seen prosperity teachers like Mike Murdock and others publicly responding to Hinn. I am sure that the private pressure is unimaginable. If his repentance is indeed sincere, he is a threat to all of his old friends.
Umm….nope. Looks like the leopard hasn’t changed his spots after all.pulpitandpen.org/2019/09/14/weeks-after-repenting-benny-hinn-just-preached-prosperity-seed-faith-giving-again-heres-the-video/________________“Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”
Re: Any update on Benny Hinn? Did he give it all back?
Honestly this life of high profile ministers can be so confusing. Can you realize the finances these men are used to? By changing directions I am sure there is a drastic cut in finances.That said, have YOU ever had a habit, standard you tried to change? As a smoker, I threw away many packs of cigarettes saying this it IT! only to a few days later to buy another pack. What about over eating or deciding to drop sweets? I read of a man, a reporter, who declared he would never eat ice cream again. Then crying as he realized he had stopped on the way home and bought a large Ice cream cone. He said he ate it all and cried the whole time that he could not break the habit.I imagine Rev. Hinn wants to do right but as Paul said, basically I do not always do it.I do hope he can stick to his guns, but it will be tough. Murdock could not live his life style if he gave up that doctrine.JMHO ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
For sure, but this is something that becomes possible through the power of the gospel.Imagine you had spent your life working people up to give you an offering to demonstrate their faith for healing. Imagine that the back rows of your crusade meetings were filled with cancer-ridden children, kids affected with cerebral palsy, kids in wheelchairs, or kids with other forms of physical or mental disabilities. Imagine they had been brought there by their parents — already destitute from medical and care expenses, but desperate, desperate beyond words for anything that might save their child.Imagine you looked at those parents and said something like, God will heal you if you have enough faith. Sowing seeds is how we demonstrate our faith. Imagine you did this again and again, for decades, until you were fabulously wealthy and had a lifestyle that most can only dream of.Now… imagine you came to know Christ as you do now. Imagine you came to know the conviction and reproof of the Holy Spirit as you do now.
How big is your house? How old is your car? What percentage of your income do you give to the work of the Lord?Just wondering. I am not defending anyone. I have always been disgusted by the manipulation and so forth. I was working for a major apparel company making 6 figures in the 80’s (wish I was now). I drove a new lincoln town car but when God called me I sold the car (was paid for) so as not to be a stumbling block to ignorant people. I felt I needed to put a sign in front of the big house I lived in that said you didn’t pay for this. People like some of you with your judgemental attitudes are the reason. But…
I love you brother,But we all know those books sales were to his followers. That’s okay, but it is not always just because he/she is a writer.You asked the question I have lived in VERY nice homes, still own several, God has blessed me. I cannot set a percentage I give to God’s work but it is never less than 25%. I still say a man called of God should not be a multimillionaire on the backs of people who rent and barely get by.You mentioned the Lincoln, yes my dad felt bad about driving a buick traded down to a Rambler because his members were Mill workers and many did not even have a car. I was raised by a man who gave 70% of his salary back to the church and missions. At his death he had $750 total and a car I had given him, NEVER did I hear him complain nor brag about his giving to God.Sorry to go crazy here. But these WEALTHY TV ministers are rich on the back of many ignorant honest working people.Sorry to ramble. God had been so good to me. I give as I am impressed by his spirit. I have given a house or two away. And he still blesses me. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
There is NOTHING wrong with giving with an expectation of return. You certainly don’t go to your job without an expectation of a return.You don’t go to all the trouble of preparing a sermon without the expectation of a return. It might be souls won to Jesus. It might be you feeling that you have obeyed the Lord. It might simply be that you want your church to think you’re on the job. But some expectation is there.Now, YES, it is wrong to FALSELY say something like, The Lord has shown me that there are 72 people who He is dealing with right now to give $10,000 to this ministry. If God truly said that to you, fine. If not, you are a liar.To ABUSE or MISUSE the GREAT TRUTH that God blesses the giver, to twist it so that by giving you mean giving to YOU…or giving in a manner that is manipulated, etc., is DEAD WRONG. But to it is good practice and good doctrine to teach that you should give NOT just because it’s a joy to be part of what God is doing, but because JESUS HIMSELF said this in:(Luke 6:38KJV) Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure,
Aaron, with respect, you are not reading that passage correctly.The
Not long after I had been married, I was working in photography with a bunch of guys from Norvel Hayes’ school in Cleveland and they were wild about everybody getting rich in Jesus name. They prayed in business meetings claiming millions in our checking accounts. I asked my father in-law about his opinion and he looked at me over his glasses with a stern look and said “silver and gold have we none.†That’s all he said.
Back in the 1990’s, I saw Benny Hinn on TBN, probably the Praise the Lord show, saying that he’d been to the Philippines and he couldn’t take up the offering the same way he did in the US after he saw their poverty. He seemed to realize there was something wrong with the way he’d been doing things, and was supposed to change.Maybe he did. But it could be that the concept of the proper balance on the subject for Benny Hinn is not the same as what many of our posters think it should be. Did Benny Hinn denounce giving to sow seed in that video clip that went viral? He was against asking for $1,000________________
In the few verses before this passage, Jesus is talking about giving (lending without expectation of return). Jesus says if you do this, your reward will be great. Why, because you will get money back? No – because you will be demonstrating you are a child of God, who also gives without expectation of return. Be merciful, as this God is merciful — which then leads us into Luke 6:37-38, stating that if you give mercy, it will be given bountifully back to you. The promise of a return for giving mercy is specifically contrasted to his prior statement that we are to give materially without expectation of a return.,You said, There is NOTHING wrong with giving with an expectation of return, but the Lord Jesus says to give expecting nothing in return. With love and respect, you are not reading your Bible correctly on this point. Dave, indeed, when you give…TO AN ENEMY…don’t expect anything in return. In that particular case.Every where else, we give to get. You don’t just drop off a $100 at the supermarket without expecting groceries in return.
I am not sure the intent of the post here. But I am learning from different perspectives as I read your comments. Bro James is right in several ways, we are judgemental pretty quick.But to me it is common sense, He has supplied ALL my needs and to many it would be in excess. I have wondered about these ‘crusades’ in poor countries (mentioned by Link).Then there is the ‘Rich young Ruler’. OUCHEddie mentioned a man I never knew but respected very highly. His common sense words during the only time I ever heard him in the 60’s, set him above his peers in his expressions. So I can just imagine that response, Silver and Gold have we none.All I can say is, you guys have blessed me as I read this. I have no stones to throw at Bro. Hinn. I do not know him, have never heard nor seen him. But I do not agree with the ‘prosperity Gospel’ as I have heard and seen it.A side note. I did quit attending a church in Sanford Florida because I was not comfortable with the ‘prosperity gospel’ stance now taken. It amazes me when people remain in poverty, doing everything the minister says, and still blame themselves. That is weird my friend, weird. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/