I have heard some ministers that I have great respect for speak of churches that, do what they might, they just could not get it to go.Sometimes, this came out with a bit of anger/bitterness…such as, Those people didn’t want to change, or what have you.And sometimes it was much more benign, as in: We tried various things, but nothing seemed to work. We wanted it to work, but the (you name it–town, community, culture, people, age groups, music, workers, etc.) just didn’t work out.ARE THERE CHURCHES THAT WILL NEVER AGAIN BE ON ANYTHING MORE THAN LIFE SUPPORT?If a church cannot pay its bills, that’s a pretty good sign that it needs to be closed. Especially if it’s due to having a very small attendance. But what about those churches that bring in enough money to pay the bills, yet still are not making much headway?Should we base it on the number of visitors? salvations? what? How do we discern when a church really needs to fold its resources into another church that is being more effective?To say that a church CAN advance under the right leadership is probably true. But the fact is that many failing churches cannot attract or afford the sort of leadership that could transform them. For instance, if you wanted a T.L. Lowery to come pastor, well, unless he had a specific word from the Lord, he’s going to have to bypass a lot of bigger, wealthier, more vibrant churches that would also like such a pastor’s services. So we’re right back where we started. To say that it COULD do better under the right conditions, but to not be able to bring about those conditions, gives us the same result, right?
Personally I hold to Penal Substitutionary Atonement
I hold to Christus Victor and penal substitution. The type and shadow of the Passover fits the Christus Victor theory yet when you read Luke’s account of the crucifixion, Penal Substitution cannot be denied!!
at Lee if my memory serves me correctly the three theories were, example theory, ransom theory and substitution theory .
Who in Hades cares about a theory??
In the past history of mankind, women were the keepers of pure morals and fidelity in the homes. The liberalism of our culture has lead women into the sad state against Biblical morals and standards that once made America the greatest moral force in the world. Men in the past were the aggressors in sexual sins, now women are as bad and sometimes worse. -Chambers
This church is really big like what we have here in cog dasma philippines.
SMH
What’s the point of this post?
Why her hair so short? She a cancer survivor?
Phenomenal family doing an awesome work for God.
Wonderful family
Beautiful family! Doing an awesome work here in the Tampa area
Great people building an awesome church and impacting the world for Jesus! Thanks for posting Charles Page
What an absolute gem of a couple!!! They are bringing the kingdom in.