It is impossible to imagine anyone seriously arguing that Hitler deserved anything but a righteous killing by 1944.The problem today with regard to the abortion issue is that there are far too many baby-murderers manifestly worthy of death (abortion doctors, abortion nurses, pro-abort legislators, presidents and Supreme Court justices, as well as mothers who knowingly consented to have their babies murdered) to reasonably execute justice on them all in this world.
By 1944 Hitler was out of his mind and not really running things. It would have been better to kill Himler and Goebles at that point. But America should never have been involved to begin with. We were suckered________________
Re: Bonhoeffer was involved in a plot to KILL Hitler. What about the current situation?
Totally unethical.That isn’t the way of Christ.Bonhoeffer messed up________________
This explains so much, thank you. We spent all that American blood to take Eastern Europe from one dictator only to give it to an even murderous dictator. Then we drew a line in the sand and told the new dictator, You can’t cross this line, spending trillions to keep that policy in force for years. Question……why didn’t we just do that with Hitler? Much of the central and eastern European countries were his allies. We simply could have warned him to stay out of western Europe, which he really had no designes on to begin with. Central Europe could then have been a buffer between western Europe and the USSR, the far greater menace________________
Totally unethical.That isn’t the way of Christ.Bonhoeffer messed up. Actually Bonhoeffer had to deal with his espoused pacifism to make that leap. What you are saying is that pacifism is the right way.I don’t agree. Bonhoeffer was right to resist in the way he did. It wasn’t for him to finish the job, but he had to come to that place of resistance of evil via force.But again, as bad as Democrats are, they are not to the level of Hitler, and a strike against one single leader would do nothing to change what’s going on in America. Its the heart of man we’re dealing with here. Laws won’t stop it either. Only changed hearts will.
If I’m not mistaken,
Hitler’s dead________________God-HonoringChrist-CenteredBible-BasedSpirit-Led
Apostle Paul, who sit under the greatest perscutor of Christians ever, Nero wrote Romans 13. He didn’t say kill leaders! I will follow Apostle Paul and the Word of God on this! Bonhoeffer was wrong to try to kill Hitler________________
He probably should have just left Germany. The people had spoken and chose National Socialism. It’s hard for Americans to understand why personal rights meant so little to those people. But the more I study the cultures of central and eastern Europe, the less surprised I am. Their history shows a bent toward ethnic collectivism. Communism sought to destroy national identity. National Socialism sought to preserve it. A system just as flawed as communism, but one where the people felt secure and were actually able to have a decent amount of economic liberty (unlike communism). This also explain why Russians love Putin. He builds them up and gives them pride in who they are (not as individuals, but as Russians). We cannot relate. But nor do we need to think we can change them. They look at Democracy in western Europe and see people voting in their own suicidal destruction. To survive, Germany will need a nationalist dictatorship again. It is reality. That is why our Founders warned us to stay out of Europe’s affairs. It ain’t our problem________________
I was thinking about the same scenario reading through the thread. I was going to post something about whether the apostles would have conspired to kill Nero. As far as I know, Hitler did not torture Christians in public for entertainment or to prove a point.But what about Ehud, stabbing a fat king that oppressed Israel in the stomach after telling him it was a message from the LORD________________
If a man breaks into your house with the intent to kill you or your family, is defense justified? Is it evil to defend, if you can, the innocent (family, neighbors, etc.) from evil criminals? And what of convicted murderers? Is the death penalty intrinsically unrighteous?The supposedly pacifist Jesus is the one true and living God who killeth, and maketh alive in both the Old and New Testaments, and who is coming back to execute vengeance upon the ungodly, slaying them utterly. This Jesus who supposedly would never hurt a fly will also one day cast the wicked into the Lake of Fire, a fate far worse than death in this world.