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Church of God Resolutions on MUSLIMS, RACISM AND ETHNIC DISPARITY

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MUSLIMS (2002)
WHEREAS the Bible directs us to go into all the world and preach the gospel to all nations, and there is a way that seems right to man but the end thereof are the ways of death; and

WHEREAS Islam has become the fastest growing religion in the world, and has attracted an attrition from Christianity among our ethnic communities (ABC News), and has more than 6 million members in the United States alone (US News and World Report), with 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide (Islamic Web); and

WHEREAS there has been A Wave of Conversion to Islam in the United States (and worldwide) following the events of September 11, 2001,” with more than 35,000 converts in the United States during the year following (Islamic Web); and

WHEREAS Christianity and Islam are antithetical, stemming from centuries of historical conflict; and

WHEREAS we are sympathetic to human rights and individual beliefs but cannot compromise our position on the gospel that Jesus Christ is the only agent by whom one may possess eternal life; and

WHEREAS Muslims are actively and aggressively involved in Islamic “evangelism,” and it is stated in the second surah (chapter) of the Qur’an (Al-Bagarah) that Allah encourages the Muslims to “fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s” (2:193), and that recently, international terrorists have quoted the Qur’an and the Hadith, saying, “I was ordered to fight the people until there is no god but Allah, and his Prophet Muhammad,” and that their resolve is seen when stated, “We will defend the Holy Land with our blood and with our spirit;” and

WHEREAS we recognize the “Farrakhanization” of American Islam to the personal end of further division, separation, and animosity between the races, along with a strong anti-Semitic doctrine; and

WHEREAS Elijah Muhammad told his followers, “the greatest hindrance to the truth of our people [members of the Nation of Islam] is the preacher of Christianity;”

BE IT THEREFORE RESOLVED that the international Church of God, as a denomination, do aggressively seek to understand Islam more clearly, so we may present Christ more effectively, and love Muslims to the cross; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED to take a sympathetic yet uncompromising position toward the entire scope of the Islamic religion, and in so doing, we recognize that all faiths are not the same, but that Jesus Christ is “the way, the truth, and the life” (John 14:6), and that no man comes to the Father but through Him, and that although there is only one way, the path is opened by the blood of Jesus for all who will believe; and

BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that the Church of God clergy and membership display the compelling love of God (John 3:16), His Son Jesus (John 13:35), and the Holy Spirit (John 16:7-11), and that our churches be filled with a bold and gracious witness to the returning Christ, “Which in His times He shall show, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords” (1 Timothy 6:15).

RACISM AND ETHNIC DISPARITY (2000)
WHEREAS the Church of God from its inception has contended to be inclusive of peoples regardless of gender, cultural background or race; and

WHEREAS the 50th General Assembly in 1964 adopted a resolution on human rights affirming the worth of every individual; and

WHEREAS every race bears the image of God and has its origin in Adam who is the Father of all mankind; and

WHEREAS in Christ Jesus there is neither Jew nor Gentile, slaves nor free men, men nor women, but we are all one in Him; and

WHEREAS the Resolution on Leadership and World Vision in the 1990 General Assembly Minutes commits the church to be “international…transcending culture, race, nationalism, and politics”; and

WHEREAS we are beholden to a Christlike example and lifestyle, one of acceptance, affirmation, and unconditional love;

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that this International General Assembly recognizes all members of the body of Christ as equal in function and consequence, and every race and ethnic distinction a valuable and necessary field for the winning of souls and the furtherance of the kingdom of God upon this earth; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that we commit towards the elimination of racism and bigotry, corporately identifying racism and bigotry as sinful hindrances which prevent us from truly realizing brotherhood and Christian love within and outside the body of the international church and the many peoples and races which it reaches and encompasses (68th A., 2000, p. 89).

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  1. Brandon,The liberal teachers are certainly more vocal…and openly recruit students to march for democrat political causes.I see all kinds of marches for non conservative causes – but I have not seen a peep from instructors organizing the march for the unborn.When they thought marching for DACA’s illegal immigrants was the right thing to do – they did that. Trump offered triple the protection for DACA folks in his state of the union – so you would have thought they would be pleased – but no. Now they march for a Clean DACA bill – with no fix for the broken immigration system – clearly a democratic ploy. So Lee has become very political. And Lee administration is silent.Since they are now political – I have asked Lee administration to openly support the pre-born and laws regarding them – but so far – nothing. If they can’t openly support laws safeguarding the unborn – just what Christian value would they support?I am concerned. I have openly supported Lee in the past on this forum and elsewhere.I’m a Lee graduate.My son is a recent Lee graduate.And I have a 16 year old daughter that has been committed to going to Lee her whole life. In the last few months – that has waivered for the first time. She isn’t sure Lee’s values match up with hers anymore. Lee may get one more shot at Lee Day this year. We will see what the administration has to say at some of the open forums that day________________

  2. There are some posttribers whose understanding of the prophetic scriptures does not require a seven-year tribulation. Personally, as one who has been persuaded of the posttrib view for many years now, the primary thing about the posttrib view is that it finds no secret rapture (or a rapture separated by much time at all from the resurrection of the dead in Christ). The posttrib view sees the catching away of the saints and the resurrection of the righteous occurring as essentially one event, just as it is described in 1 Thess 4

  3. Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand)…For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.

  4. When people say rapture they are almost always referring to the secret one, as that is the rapture that dominates eschatological conversation today. I was likewise referring to the secret rapture in my post. I am not aware of any stream of orthodox Christianity that denies a catching away of living saints at the resurrection of the dead and second coming of Christ.

  5. Of course you know I was joking in previous post. Except for that part about “doofus.” Seriously, consider that many years ago someone got on Actscelerate to report something a bit underhanded of a State Overseer. That had an effect. In truth, there was no recourse for the poster, I imagine, since Cleveland would almost certainly do nothing. But it had an effect, so far as I know. If nothing else, leaders seemed to try to be more circumspect, since it might end up here.

  6. I am sure that we would get in serious trouble with state and general headquarters if we wrote (with our real names) what we truly thought about the good old boy system that is now in play. Here is something certain though, if you want to go somewhere in the Church of God you better not tick off the wrong AB or the wrong person on his way up. Actscelerate or no Actscelerate. Be a good boy and don’t speak out when you see injustice. You don’t know nothin’!The thing is there is so much subterfuge in the system you really can’t say for certain and pin it on them. All you have is your own personal evidence of how things have gone(or not gone) for you after you spoke your mind. Then you hear some other former pastor tell his own story of literally getting thrown our of a church to make room for someone else and it just kind of stick in your gut. And maybe it wouldn’t mean so much if you had not heard it from the mouths of other ministers…you know two or three witness________________

  7. I know it is hard to take someone like moonwalking with Jesus serious, but here me out. Pastors need to start drafting our own selections for positions instead of just taking what has been spoon fed to us on the campmeeting circuit. I would even go as far as drafting potential candidates for high level positions________________

  8. Whether by design or not, I do not know; however, Actscelerate began as an participatory extension of Doyle’s newspaper. One could read an article (thread or a post within a thread), then respond in a post. Thanks to Al Gore’s invention of the Internet, all of this could happen in a brief period of time. Within a few hours, a single thread could literally enjoy global participation.As with anything technological, it will experience uses both good and bad. Some, like OTCP, from the git go of his participation with Acts, used it primarily as a tool for humor, fun and enjoyment. I would challenge anyone to research the archived posts of OTCP, and you will find not one single post derogatory of the COG. There will be a few that were posted in jest, and they are clearly referenced as such.Others, however, from day one of their involvement with Acts, used the venue as a tool to lambast, criticize, demean and spread vitriol and venom against the COG, its leadership and decisions made by those in authority. This latter approach is probably why some within COG leadership frowned on Actscelerate. Of course, now, there are AB’s who post by name, DO’s, Lee faculty, etc.In all my years a postin on Acts, not one time has anybody ever said, warned, cautioned, etc…, my participation here. But, it could be that they aint a lot a folk get through Pikeville, KY, too often.

  9. I have NOT noted much restraint when it comes to you speaking your mind about me…or anything for that matter…on ANY forum.

  10. In the COG, some people can do no wrong. Unfortunately, there are some who can do no right. Some people can discuss, criticize, or question anything, without consequence. For others, the slightest hint of disloyalty apparently makes them radioactive.It all depends on who you are, and who you know________________

  11. I have NOT noted much restraint when it comes to you speaking your mind about me…or anything for that matter…on ANY forum. Next… I know you know that I am being playful when I go all snarky on you. HOWEVER, indeed, I likely am a little more forward that some. I know that back in the Wild West days of Actscelerate, BOTH sides of the conversation were very forward. But on FB, not so much…at least not if it’s one of those topics that can get you branded as a heretic or what have you. Further–and this is probably one of the worst things about not allowing pen names–say that some minister is truly struggling with a serious problem–alcohol, lust, drugs, etc.–that guy may desperately need help, but is reluctant to be too open about such matters because of what it might cost him in terms of how people perceive him, whether a State Overseer might think the guy needs to move on, lose his license, etc.Basically, on FB we constrict conversations about issues that might be uncomfortable or troublesome. If we could truly speak at ease, not only might more light be shed on the matter, but change might be affected.In my time on Actscelerate, I have been bloodied and bruised a few times, but I have also noticed that, over time, certain stances have moderated as I began to hear the non-watered down version of certain arguments. I do appreciate the gentler tone that FB brings. But there is a trade-off, I think: We get more gentleness at the expense, perhaps, of more straightforward conversation, more robust argumentation, more thrust-and-parry, etc. When you come out the other side of such times, you sometimes bring with you a new perspective.

  12. I have NOT noted much restraint when it comes to you speaking your mind about me…or anything for that matter…on ANY forum. Next… I know you know that I am being playful when I go all snarky on you. HOWEVER, indeed, I likely am a little more forward that some. I know that back in the Wild West days of Actscelerate, BOTH sides of the conversation were very forward. But on FB, not so much…at least not if it’s one of those topics that can get you branded as a heretic or what have you. Further–and this is probably one of the worst things about not allowing pen names–say that some minister is truly struggling with a serious problem–alcohol, lust, drugs, etc.–that guy may desperately need help, but is reluctant to be too open about such matters because of what it might cost him in terms of how people perceive him, whether a State Overseer might think the guy needs to move on, lose his license, etc.Basically, on FB we constrict conversations about issues that might be uncomfortable or troublesome. If we could truly speak at ease, not only might more light be shed on the matter, but change might be affected.In my time on Actscelerate, I have been bloodied and bruised a few times, but I have also noticed that, over time, certain stances have moderated as I began to hear the non-watered down version of certain arguments. I do appreciate the gentler tone that FB brings. But there is a trade-off, I think: We get more gentleness at the expense, perhaps, of more straightforward conversation, more robust argumentation, more thrust-and-parry, etc. When you come out the other side of such times, you sometimes bring with you a new perspective.Just my thoughts. I don’t know….There are some pen name people I’m glad are gone.There was this one guy named Yo Dude who used to post on here.He was whacked!Off the wall theology and opinions on stuff you wouldn’t believe.And combative? Oh my! He made Major Trammell look like a flower child!But he did keep the readership and activity up.Had an Executive Comm member once tell me he knew who it was.He told me his name…who knows.Guy just disappeared…sorta like Josey Wales.

  13. Agreed. Yo Dude probably was posting from a mental institution…not one coherent thought. I was glad when he received a lifetime ban…for conduct unbecoming a man________________

  14. I wasn’t going to comment, but Yo Dude was my favorite poster when I started. yeah he crossed the line a couple times, one time I thought he should be shot (but with a bb gun).I truly miss the Chancellor and who ever he was before and after. I read a good classcial book once because of him. I also started one classic, 5 years ago and I still ain’t fionished it.But I see room for a variety of posters. To be honest even at 79 yrs of age, I have learned a lot.Thanks to you here now and the ones gone or banned. I had to go back and see if I was close to still on subject and figured I ain’t far off from Jlarry’s post.I talked to one middle management guy in Ceveland who told me he had never read Acts because his boss suggested it would be a good idea NOT to read. I told him my opinion. whetehr he ever read it before he passed on, I do not know. But that was 5-6 yrs back. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

  15. There are likely a number I have forgotten, due to their having been gone so long, but, indeed, we have had some off the wallers here.

  16. Shucks, I forgot the Major, I liked him also, but I guess it ‘doesn’t matter.’ I sorta liked that It doesn’t matter because as a rule the dude was right! ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

  17. I didn’t see this till know, I see Mark had a great answer for u Pastor Nations. But I I think I know where you’re going with this, as you believe Messiah was risen on the first day of the week (& He was) & that removes the Sabbath day. But my friend, there is no Commandment 4 the resurrection to be worshipped on Sunday & the changing of the Sabbath day, that’s adding & subtracting, a no no in Deut 432, Prov 30:6, Rev 22:18-19. Pastor, but there is a Commandment for Shabbat in the 10 Words, & in all texts of the Bible ðŸ˜________________Ps 122:6

  18. I will chip in my 2 cents.I do hope some good comes from this. We certainly do not need to go to war in another part of the globe.This would be a blessing to open the gate both ways, there would be a flood south, but it could even out if the peace and end held.If anything comes of it honestly I think it is because of Trumps position of NOT Pampering a nut.Anyway, this is of course a wait and see thing and my thoughts have nothing to do with anyone’s prophecies. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

  19. Today’s article on drudge.“Donald Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, says South Korea’s President”news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-deserves-the-nobel-peace-prize-says-south-koreas-president-11353799

  20. I’d like to see Trump invite Kim over for a tour of America. Take him to a small town diner as well as a few major cities. Let him meet average Americans________________

  21. not only God’s love and lovingkindness, but of yours and your family’s. And such a testimony to Destiny who God graciously placed in the hands of a caring and nurturing family. May she, and your family, continue to know the joy of walking in God’s will.Thanks for sharing________________God-HonoringChrist-CenteredBible-BasedSpirit-Led

  22. Wonderful. I love to hear of people who believe and LOVE in the face of FACTS (human type).Thanks for the report. God is truly Good________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

  23. God can do more with nothing, than man with unlimited resources.Awesome testimony of God’s power and deliverance. Thanks for sharing________________

  24. I think you would find that the word circumcision could be used in place of sabbath (in terms of it being prior to the Law, codified by the Law, practiced by Jesus, etc.). And yet we know clearly that it is not required for Gentile believers. Granted, however, that the Sabbath is not so clearly exempted.It is MY OPINION that one of the reasons the church moved to Sunday vs. the Sabbath was because, in time, the divide between Jews and Christians became more and more intense. With the rise of Judaizers, it seemed that the early church grew more and more distrustful of Jews and/or those that thought Christians should observe certain Jewish traditions/requirements.The Catholic Church may have cemented the change, but it doesn’t seem to me that it would have arisen organically from the notion that Jesus rose on that day. That is, it is hard for me to think that Christians said that they didn’t have to observe the Sabbath just because Jesus was rose on the first day of the week. It seems that there must surely have been other drivers to the change. And it (again) my opinion that it all may have been a reaction to Judaism trying to control Christianity…or a reaction to feeling pushed out of synagogues by the increasingly bitter divide between Jews and Christians…or a reaction to being thought of as just another branch of Judaism (e.g., Pharisees, Saducees, and Christians).

  25. While circumcision, like tithing, pre-dated the Law of Moses, circumcision is a non-issue. The Jerusalem Council addressed this issue. Further, Paul later equated the symbolism of entering the Abrahamic covenant with baptism:

  26. How do we know which day is the true Seventh day that God rested?Perhaps our Wednesday is the actual Seventh Day. How does anyone know it isn’t?Who has been the one keeping count since the first seventh day of rest?Did God assign Adam a calendar task? How do we know he kept it accurately? Who did he pass that task to next? And then who?And if we don’t know – would the concept of taking a seventh day of rest suffice as keeping the Sabbath, whether Saturday, Sunday or Wednesday________________

  27. So, why do you offer this as an argument? Do you offer it because you are opposed to observing the Sabbath?Or, do you offer it to support observing on Sunday?Or, do you offer it to support we should treat every day with the same esteem and in anticipation of entering into a rest________________God-HonoringChrist-CenteredBible-BasedSpirit-Led

  28. It wasn’t an argument.It was a question.You indicate you believe Christians should observe the Sabbath. Sounds fine to me.How do we know which day actually is the Sabbath________________

  29. On the question what day do we keep as the Sabbath, look up what the Jews been doing throughout the centuries as G-d gave them the Eternal Covenant of the Sabbath, they have never lost it & just look at your calendar, what is the seventh day? I know they’re changing calendars now to make Sunday the 7th day, but that’s not correct. Throughout history the Sabbath day has never changed, now calendars and days have been changed, but the Sabbath day has always been Saturday ðŸ˜________________Ps 122:6

  30. Nah, the Jews have pretty much messed up every single thing the Lord commanded them, AS WELL AS rejecting God’s ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.

  31. Nah, the Jews have pretty much messed up every single thing the Lord commanded them, AS WELL AS rejecting God’s ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.And you, you keep misspelling God’s Name, and you will almost certainly go to you-know-where. Besides, didn’t the Bible say something about TAKING AWAY FROM? Yep, hell it is…. You beat me to it Aaron.Jesus had to keep telling these guys everything they got wrong about God, His Law, etc… but were expected to believe they got this one right? Not buying it________________

  32. Deleted…I didn’t see your other two Sabbath posts until after I posted my question (now deleted).It seems pretty clear you’re all in on the sabbath thing…

  33. WONDERFUL!!!!! That is so good to hear my friend. What amazes me is folks who can lose that much and I can’t lose 10 lbs. Good for you and love to that sweet wife. I know she is very supportive.Love to the family too, hope that soldier is doing great________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

  34. I read about that about a year ago. It is sad that some journalist must make a point by ensuring the name/denomination of any action or scandal will be known. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

  35. And if a journalist doesn’t make the denomination known, OTCP sure will!This is OLD NEWS, so is the Soddy Daisy Prophet, but if it stings Pentecostals and the Church of God, OTCP will be sure to remind, remind, and remind everyone.

  36. Aaron,In fairness to Oldtimer – they were only caught in 2018…so it ain’t that old.If it showed a COG sign and he was really watching it – he could have at least taken a screenshot of it.SO – perhaps we should just label it fake news regarding the COG – and move on________________

  37. Here is the link to the 20/20 interviewabc.go.com/shows/2020/episode-guide/2018-01/19-011918-2020

  38. The program me an momma seen, The Turpin 13, was a 2-hour documentary hosted by Soledad O’Brien. Momma had seen it advertised cause the ole timer don’t spend much time watchin Oxygen. Momma thought it was some kinda horror story an ast if I’d watch it with her.www.oxygen.com/the-turpin-13-family-secrets-exposed/crime-time/the-turpin-13-family-secrets-exposed-hosted-byIn referencing the Princeton COG, O’Brien said It was a Pentecostal church that believed in speaking in tongues and where people attended church 2-3 times a week. It was said in such a way as to be less than complementary. No, the program didn’t blame the COG, I don’t remember any further reference bein made to the COG after that. This aired on Sat, April 28, an was the very first time the ole timer had heard of it. So if you boys heard it long ago you must be prophets, cause the news didn’t break till Jan 2018.I made no reference of wrongdoing on the part of the COG or the Turpin family. I don’t know any of em. I posted the story cause as I sat there an watched the story it was unbelievable.

  39. What is the Princeton COGs response to being on a national news program?Should they say nothing – or point out that they kicked their sorry behinds outta the church? (if that is what happened) Who knows? But if that is the only church referenced – then I would say it was cast in a very negative light________________

  40. Hey! I’m preaching on messed up people this morning! ________________Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church

  41. It is because we have read and understood the Pauline Epistles, found in the New Testament.HAVE YOU found in letters that Paul says you can do whatever you want? well then I guess you believe Paul is a liar right there and ask 25 verse 8

  42. It is because we have read and understood the Pauline Epistles, found in the New Testament.How can you understand Paul through the New Testament, when Paul is not saying what your theology says? You’re looking at Paul in the way you’ve been taught and the way your theology tells you, now what part of the Bible tells you 😉. Put away your theology and what you been taught and then read Paul. Take the scriptures for what they say, do you not add or subtract Deut 4:2😊I have asked this question here before, and I’ll ask you now. Have you ever been wrong when you thought you were 100% correct? & Do you think that can happen again?

  43. Yea and amen! ________________Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church

  44. Yes, I do have a thought on this. If you think keeping Torah will make you spotless then you will split hell wide open. Only the Blood of Christ can take away your sin and make you holy. If you read Paul’s letter to the Phillipians, you will quickly realize that Paul summed up his life and works as a Pharisee in one word…dung! What he said!

  45. Yes, I do have a thought on this. If you think keeping Torah will make you spotless then you will split hell wide open. Only the Blood of Christ can take away your sin and make you holy. If you read Paul’s letter to the Phillipians, you will quickly realize that Paul summed up his life and works as a Pharisee in one word…dung! Keeping G-d’s Torah, Instructions, Laws will split hell open sheik? & I’m not talking about keeping Torah outside of Y’shua, but keeping G-d’s Commandments is how u guard yourself. 1 John 5:18-19; we know that whosoever is born of God sins not, but he that is begotten of G-d **keeps/guards** himself, and the wicked one touches and not. If you got yourself and keep God’s Commandments the wicked one won’t touch you. You’re not sending because you’re guarding yourself and keeping G-d’s Commandments, sin is breaking CommandmentsThe enemy couldn’t touch Messiah, because he had nothing to work with. I’ll give you an example, look at people’s struggles with sins in their lives, why? Because the enemy exploits it and has something to work with. Knowing God’s Torah cuts that down a 1000 percent. Why do people sin in the world? Cuz they don’t know G-d’s Instructions, Torah, Law’s. & They are in need of the Savior Y’shua& Paul is speaking of the Pharisees law, not G-d’s Torah Law________________Ps 122:6

  46. Look at what James said to Paul in Acts 21.24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.Paul addressed a situation in the book of Galatians where Jews were trying to get Gentiles to be circumcised and obey the law of Moses. They were tempting them to trust in joining the covenant with Moses instead of trusting in Christ. As Torah-observant as Jews in the early church tried to be, they still had to be justified by faith in Christ________________

  47. Shalom Link, I haven’t talked to you in a while 😃. But u left out an important part of Acts 24, you left out verse 23, it talks about four men had a vow on them selves and they had to shave their heads. Btw, that’s in the Torah about a Nazarite vow, & this is after Messiahs death & then Paul goes on to say inverse 25 what is quoted in Acts chapter 15, which is the starting point for gentilesYes, Paul did address that situation in Galatians which is the same one in Acts 15, but he was not talking against the Torah of Elohim. & I just want to say something right here for all those who think Paul is against Torah is that you only have two choices, either the way people read Paul is misunderstood, or Paul is a heretick and you have to throw him outPaul is a rabbi, as Messiah is a rabbi, and a rabbi can only teach Torah. The only thing I can encourage people that have that thought is to read the book of Deuteronomy and Psalms 119 for about a month and then read the book of Galatians and you won’t have that same mindset ðŸ˜________________Ps 122:6

  48. I’m in favor of this being applied to certain folks. Lol, who are you talking about, Pastor Nations, sheepdog, Sheik LO________________Ps 122:6

  49. Matthew 23:8“But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.â€________________

  50. Have Prayed Sweet lady. Prayers and positive thoughts continue for you. God is always GOOD. Love & PrayersSherry & jac________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

  51. Thank you for your prayers. I received permission from the doc through the PT (physical therapist) yesterday to take off the immobilizer, which has made getting around easier. Still a lot of pain, but day by day..________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name

  52. Tommy Bates is the real deal. When I heard him in person, one of the things that I thought was great was that he told people if they could afford to support his ministry, that was awesome. But he said he did not want little old ladies sending in their money if they needed it themselves. I’ve never heard any minister tell people to keep their $ if they couldn’t afford it. I am pretty sure he said they are debt free, too. They also have a lot of young people who have been delivered from drugs and are on fire for Jesus. He preaches boldly and isn’t afraid to call sin sin.________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name

  53. BUT, as the President of the United States, his words have impact. He uses the vernacular of the blue collar man and while that enables him to connect with his base it is insensitive to those whom he offends. To be all aghast that he said it is mock offense. Some of these criticizing him have probably said worse in private conversation. He made the mistake of speaking off handedly in a semi private conversation with some Democratic and Republican Senators in a small meeting. Guess who threw him under the bus? Probably never Trumper Jeff Flake. It does beg the question that is getting lost in the racist comments, why ARE we bringing in so many Haitians and Africans and other 3rd world citizens who are not suffering war? Compassion? yes but if you have been to some of these countries as I have, you’d want to leave too. How many can we assimilate? What is the proper number of people we should bring in each year? Should we bring any in? This the discussion we should be having.

  54. 😕…..dave, according to Y’shua in Matthew Chapter 7 Lawless Deeds come from not keeping the Law, get it Lawless without LawYou’ve been taught in correctly about the Law dave, it means Instructions. Now ask me the question with the word Instruction________________Ps 122:6

  55. How are you going to live to expose this feller if you don’t accept his help? Haha – that’s a goodone Link. I LOLed that one. Oldtimer: thank you very much – and to all you news media out here – I want to talk about something a lot more serious than my drownin – and that’s the bogus degree of that feller that just saved me…________________

  56. As a former lifeguard/water safety instructor, I can say that an untrained rescuer could quite possibly do more harm than good, regardless of intentions, and might even result in a double drowning of both the rescuee and the rescuer.

  57. As much as I dislike the Tide – hats off to them and their coach. Whatever their personal misgivings – they do things together as a team.And they seasoned it with prayer.Most church pastor’s and members could learn something from them________________

  58. One poster said, According to Jesus’ words to the thief on the cross, He was in Paradise and referenced Luke 23:43.Here is a problem. Commas were place by translators. They were not in the original text. Thus, Luke 23:43could be rendered as: And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee to day, shalt thou be with me in paradise.So, this passage, Luke 23:43

  59. John 13:12When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. “Do you understand what I have done for you?” he asked them. 13 “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am. 14 Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet,