JDS will go to World Missions. But who will be going to the EC________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
Does that mean that TP goes to Missions Director________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
I don’t know how old any of those guys are honestly. But I know my dad is 63, and a fair number of them are older than him. Do we allow them to retire from vocational ministry and enjoy life beyond that?
I am sure many would applaud some retirments but those fellas have to be the ones who say they don’t want to serve. I do not see any of them doing that________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
If Bishop J D Stevens goes to World Missions, which is the trend for past 3-4 Assemblies and Bishop T. Propes goes to the Executive then that would open up an awesome opportunity to vote a missionary or Field Director (many who are highly qualified to serve) with Cross Cultural experience to be the Assistant Director for COGWM. Many of us who live and minister outside the USA feel this would be an important and exceptional move for COG World wide to continue the growth of the organization________________Dennis TannerAdministrative Bishop Scotland
To follow up on what Dennis Tanner has posted. Why not? Someone like, Nick Park. Nick has the expertise and has ministered in many places around the world. He has served multiple times on the Executive council.
My first thought was Jonathan Augustine, but Pastor Park would likely also do an exceptional job. To continue with the thought should the opportunity exist: Andrew Binda, Ken Anderson, Grant McClung, Chris Swift, and Ishmael Charles________________Dennis TannerAdministrative Bishop Scotland
My first thought was Jonathan Augustine, but Pastor Park would likely also do an exceptional job. To continue with the thought should the opportunity exist: Andrew Binda, Ken Anderson, Grant McClung, Chris Swift, and Ishmael Charles. All of the men mentioned here are good men. However, the last time we had two missionaries as Director/Assistant, they almost bankrupted the department. I think we do a great disservice when we place a missionary out of their calling and into a primarily administrative role. We also do this when we elect someone to the Executive Committee or appoint them as an overseer because they are a good preacher.
My first thought was Jonathan Augustine, but Pastor Park would likely also do an exceptional job. To continue with the thought should the opportunity exist: Andrew Binda, Ken Anderson, Grant McClung, Chris Swift, and Ishmael Charles. All of the men mentioned here are good men. However, the last time we had two missionaries as Director/Assistant, they almost bankrupted the department. I think we do a great disservice when we place a missionary out of their calling and into a primarily administrative role. We also do this when we elect someone to the Executive Committee or appoint them as an overseer because they are a good preacher. I don’t intend to be negative. I’m just addressing what I have observed to be a reality during my 40 years of ministry in the Church of God. True. Just because someone can communicate/preach really well doesn’t make them a good administrator or effective leader and someone can be a fantastic administrator but bore you to tears when they get up to speak. I would say that it is a very, very rare person that is equally gifted with both.A great communicator, be it a pastor or overseer, is often well-served by surrounding themselves with people who are strong where they themselves are weak. A great administrator/leader can schedule or hire gifted communicators. We are a Body. Every part is needed and necessary________________Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8
TJ out of Alabama could go to World Missions. He has a prety big mission footprint all ready________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
JDS will go to World Missions. But who will be going to the EC________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
True or not, that has been a common opinion for many years….. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Does that mean that TP goes to Missions Director________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
I don’t know how old any of those guys are honestly. But I know my dad is 63, and a fair number of them are older than him. Do we allow them to retire from vocational ministry and enjoy life beyond that?
I am sure many would applaud some retirments but those fellas have to be the ones who say they don’t want to serve. I do not see any of them doing that________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
If Bishop J D Stevens goes to World Missions, which is the trend for past 3-4 Assemblies and Bishop T. Propes goes to the Executive then that would open up an awesome opportunity to vote a missionary or Field Director (many who are highly qualified to serve) with Cross Cultural experience to be the Assistant Director for COGWM. Many of us who live and minister outside the USA feel this would be an important and exceptional move for COG World wide to continue the growth of the organization________________Dennis TannerAdministrative Bishop Scotland
To follow up on what Dennis Tanner has posted. Why not? Someone like, Nick Park. Nick has the expertise and has ministered in many places around the world. He has served multiple times on the Executive council.
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My first thought was Jonathan Augustine, but Pastor Park would likely also do an exceptional job. To continue with the thought should the opportunity exist: Andrew Binda, Ken Anderson, Grant McClung, Chris Swift, and Ishmael Charles________________Dennis TannerAdministrative Bishop Scotland
My first thought was Jonathan Augustine, but Pastor Park would likely also do an exceptional job. To continue with the thought should the opportunity exist: Andrew Binda, Ken Anderson, Grant McClung, Chris Swift, and Ishmael Charles. All of the men mentioned here are good men. However, the last time we had two missionaries as Director/Assistant, they almost bankrupted the department. I think we do a great disservice when we place a missionary out of their calling and into a primarily administrative role. We also do this when we elect someone to the Executive Committee or appoint them as an overseer because they are a good preacher.
My first thought was Jonathan Augustine, but Pastor Park would likely also do an exceptional job. To continue with the thought should the opportunity exist: Andrew Binda, Ken Anderson, Grant McClung, Chris Swift, and Ishmael Charles. All of the men mentioned here are good men. However, the last time we had two missionaries as Director/Assistant, they almost bankrupted the department. I think we do a great disservice when we place a missionary out of their calling and into a primarily administrative role. We also do this when we elect someone to the Executive Committee or appoint them as an overseer because they are a good preacher. I don’t intend to be negative. I’m just addressing what I have observed to be a reality during my 40 years of ministry in the Church of God. True. Just because someone can communicate/preach really well doesn’t make them a good administrator or effective leader and someone can be a fantastic administrator but bore you to tears when they get up to speak. I would say that it is a very, very rare person that is equally gifted with both.A great communicator, be it a pastor or overseer, is often well-served by surrounding themselves with people who are strong where they themselves are weak. A great administrator/leader can schedule or hire gifted communicators. We are a Body. Every part is needed and necessary________________Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8
I would vote for Pastor Nik________________
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Mark Williams will return to the EC. That will effectively set him up to return as GO in 2024________________
TJ out of Alabama could go to World Missions. He has a prety big mission footprint all ready________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.