we are not there, but have friends that are, so my wife calls it up on the internet. she watched a service and asked me, Why would they have a preacher in florida who is not COG preach the camp meeting? We had pastors at Bradenton and Eustis who put the Word out as well as this man. the sermon was good, but I expected a pastor from Ocala or J’ville. Travis would have blessed the people had they called him!I had not told her there was a discussion here on Acts concerning that same subject. I just smiled, that is the overseer and council’s determination.I just thought it was unique that a member would think it odd. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
A pastor told me Friday night’s crowd was the largest he had seen in years. A youth night/Jentezen Franklin combo would be hard to top.I watched each service and I have to give the nod to Jentezen for the best message and delivery________________“Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”
It makes no sense at all.It should be a gathering of COG singers, teachers, preachers________________
I have heard that this was the best Campmeeting in YEARS.
Last night was off the chain! Youth night is always big, and this was no exception. The young people led worship with several students from Lead Florida, as well as other young adults with the mass youth choir. All of my kids were there, with my oldest working the canteen (she’s in Lead FL). Tony Suarez brought straight fire. The Spirit really touched us and many danced in the Spirit around the altar. I received a fresh dose of joy myself.As for using non-COG guys, as long as God wants to use the Tony Suarez’s, Samuel Rodriguez’s, and Jim Cymbala’s (he was in SC Thursday), I’m good. They don’t have to have COG papers to speak into our movement________________The World As I See Itworldjeffreysees.blogspot.com/Revuriah’s Facebookwww.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Richard/1226257444Jeffrey David Richard’s Myspace Musicwww.myspace.com/547856946
I am definitely not a selfish person, and as long as God is blessing ’tis good. I just know that it would be a blessing for some of our ‘hidden’ worship and preaching talent to be also blessed and displayed for god’s glory and to be a blessing.If we are to be interdenominational, lets go forward with it and allow our ministers to also share their ‘anointed’ talents in other venues/denominations, and independent works.It is sorta two faced to promote independent and other denominational ministries and pull credentials of the little guy who just wants to spread the Word.I don’t mean that to be a wet blanket. God bless Camp Meetings,, we certainly need it. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
I do not think that this thread was about how great Camp Meeting was – but rather who is making the decision to use certain speakers & singers and why?It is obvious, the Florida State Overseer either has a backbone like a saw-logand made this choice himself OR he is spineless and allowed Cleveland HQ Leadership tell him who to pick because they have an behind-the-scenes agenda.
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Maybe the churches in the State can continue to get smaller with overseer saw-log and have more guys go independent. Comgrats. Jm Raley can open more campuses________________
The OP was about my wife’s comment on the Florida speaker. I made the post because her statement reflected a discussion that was on this Forum and she knew nothing about. She breathes COG, and has no stones to throw at the COG. She has been a member of this church since 1944 and KNOWS we have and have had some of the best ministers in the world, just wondered why they weren’t being used. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
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The OP was about my wife’s comment on the Florida speaker. I made the post because her statement reflected a discussion that was on this Forum and she knew nothing about. She breathes COG, and has no stones to throw at the COG. She has been a member of this church since 1944 and KNOWS we have and have had some of the best ministers in the world, just wondered why they weren’t being used.
Gotcha! my bad! ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
What is ludicrous and incorrect is you thought that the COG HQ Leadershipdoes not force it’s will on the Camp Meeting Speaker Agenda.1. The 5 EC Members are up for re-election – and (by the nature of the COG system) force their way onto the speaking agenda of the largest states and the Covenant Groups.2. The State AB knows that he better ask the Correct EC member to speak at the Bible Study or Night Service if that AB wants to be retained or promoted.3. If the EC tells the State AB to ask a non-COG Minister to speak you can be certain that they are trying to bring that Speaker into the Church of God.4. I have seen this happen since the 1980’s and I know that Camp Meeting has been used as a Campaign Stop for Many EC Members.
This is a joke.Just how many have been brought into the COG by this method in the last 25 years?Compare it to how many of our top guys have left________________
This is a joke.Just how many have been brought into the COG by this method in the last 25 years?Compare it to how many of our top guys have left. Well we did get Bro Franklin back, sorta. And that is no kick at Jentesen. He is a fine man from a wonderful COG family and a man of God. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/