Can someone please list the reasons why Tim Hill should get another four years? What accomplishments are attributed to him so far as advancing the kingdom of God and the church of God. Under his watch has their been an increase in churches planted? Growth in missions? Youth ministries on the increase? Asking because I am truly interested even if I don’t have a vote________________“Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”
When you say marked improvements, how do you mean? Quantifiable Metrics such as:1) Increase in members, finances or new churches2) Improved moral among the bishops3) Better benefits for retired ministers
When you say marked improvements, how do you mean? Quantifiable Metrics such as:1) Increase in members, finances or new churches2) Improved moral among the bishops3) Better benefits for retired ministers4) Lower expenses I don’t know that we can realistically measure the success of the General Assembly or mark improvements by the rubrics you’ve listed. Taking in members, planting new churches, and increasing membership are not usually done at a a biennial convention of ours or any other ecclesiastical organization. But there has definitely been emphasis on some of these things (and even resolutions passed that promoted them such as a task force for church planting and revitalization as well as a study on aging ministers). The purpose of the General Assembly is not to lower expenses but to provide an opportunity for ministers and laity to have an organized business meeting (where everything from doctrine to finances are discussed and voted upon). The Assembly also provides a worship experience, as well as having fellowship with some of our global constituency. Additionally, at each of the GA worship services, a significant emphasis was placed upon the pentecostal experience. It was very refreshing to say the least. I’d love to hear your thoughts on better retirement for ministers though. Perhaps you could even form it into a motion to be presented at the upcoming Assembly? At the business session at the General Assembly in 2018, thirty-three items were adopted, bylaws were updated, compensation for pastors (including adding sabbaticals) was passed and adding even a prerequisite that state overseers had to have pastoral experience. Perhaps it is time to overhaul our retirement system and even do something proactively for currently retired ministers.Regarding morale of the Bishops? I can only speak for my self and my inner circle friends and our morale is high________________
There is a push to send Mark Williams back to the top??________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
The post of M16 is an indictment against this forum and should be taken down. Opinion is one thing but trolling toxicity is something else. Along the way, the men on the current EC have not given M16 what M16 personally wanted. or at least they represent someone in past leadership who didnt. That is more likely the case here. The current EC is possibly the most open, available, transparent and results oriented administration the COG has had in manymany years. If Hill and his team are a sideshow, I cant wait to see what happens when they hit center-stage.
I don’t have a dog in this fight, but M16 has attached men we respect. Even if he has a charge he should be specific. His post is nothing more than slander behind a mask. I don’t understand why this is not deleted. This is Christianity at it’s worst________________
oh no, he used mean words… remove him from the forum immediately. Snowflakes________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
We don’t vote for change. We vote for convenience. First question asked, Who has to get off? Then we vote for others to move on up and take their turn.Then we have to look at who has been preaching the big camp meetings. Who has been put forth. They will fill any voids________________
So true. Eric Petree will be the next guy who gets the push. He is young enough to seem relevant, but not bold enough to rock any boats________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
I do not choose to run________________
Re: General Assembly 2020 Election
Tim Hill is eligible to serve for another 4 year term
Re: How many assemblies have come and gone.
When you say marked improvements, how do you mean________________
Can someone please list the reasons why Tim Hill should get another four years? What accomplishments are attributed to him so far as advancing the kingdom of God and the church of God. Under his watch has their been an increase in churches planted? Growth in missions? Youth ministries on the increase? Asking because I am truly interested even if I don’t have a vote________________“Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”
When you say marked improvements, how do you mean? Quantifiable Metrics such as:1) Increase in members, finances or new churches2) Improved moral among the bishops3) Better benefits for retired ministers
When you say marked improvements, how do you mean? Quantifiable Metrics such as:1) Increase in members, finances or new churches2) Improved moral among the bishops3) Better benefits for retired ministers4) Lower expenses I don’t know that we can realistically measure the success of the General Assembly or mark improvements by the rubrics you’ve listed. Taking in members, planting new churches, and increasing membership are not usually done at a a biennial convention of ours or any other ecclesiastical organization. But there has definitely been emphasis on some of these things (and even resolutions passed that promoted them such as a task force for church planting and revitalization as well as a study on aging ministers). The purpose of the General Assembly is not to lower expenses but to provide an opportunity for ministers and laity to have an organized business meeting (where everything from doctrine to finances are discussed and voted upon). The Assembly also provides a worship experience, as well as having fellowship with some of our global constituency. Additionally, at each of the GA worship services, a significant emphasis was placed upon the pentecostal experience. It was very refreshing to say the least. I’d love to hear your thoughts on better retirement for ministers though. Perhaps you could even form it into a motion to be presented at the upcoming Assembly? At the business session at the General Assembly in 2018, thirty-three items were adopted, bylaws were updated, compensation for pastors (including adding sabbaticals) was passed and adding even a prerequisite that state overseers had to have pastoral experience. Perhaps it is time to overhaul our retirement system and even do something proactively for currently retired ministers.Regarding morale of the Bishops? I can only speak for my self and my inner circle friends and our morale is high________________
What if…
There is a push to send Mark Williams back to the top??________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
M16 Way Off Base
The post of M16 is an indictment against this forum and should be taken down. Opinion is one thing but trolling toxicity is something else. Along the way, the men on the current EC have not given M16 what M16 personally wanted. or at least they represent someone in past leadership who didnt. That is more likely the case here. The current EC is possibly the most open, available, transparent and results oriented administration the COG has had in manymany years. If Hill and his team are a sideshow, I cant wait to see what happens when they hit center-stage.
I don’t have a dog in this fight, but M16 has attached men we respect. Even if he has a charge he should be specific. His post is nothing more than slander behind a mask. I don’t understand why this is not deleted. This is Christianity at it’s worst________________
oh no, he used mean words… remove him from the forum immediately. Snowflakes________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
We don’t vote for change. We vote for convenience. First question asked, Who has to get off? Then we vote for others to move on up and take their turn.Then we have to look at who has been preaching the big camp meetings. Who has been put forth. They will fill any voids________________
So true. Eric Petree will be the next guy who gets the push. He is young enough to seem relevant, but not bold enough to rock any boats________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.