Well, I’ve listened to a few videos of him while working on something today and this evening, so I don’t know that much about him. But apparently, he was with the Kansas City prophets, has spent time with Heidi Bakker, has had some interaction with Bethel in Redding, CA, and went to some kind of meeting with Rick Joyner and Larry Randolph. So he seems to hang with the ‘prophetic movement’ and ‘signs and wonders movement folks. I’m not saying that would make up my mind for me about inviting him. Let’s say he’d be staying with a friend of yours in Pikeville, and the friend suggested you invite him to speak. Would you________________
Shawn Bolz is the real deal. OTCP won’t like him.because Bill Johnson is his mentor. That would be recommendation enough for me to have him. I also heard him in LA at Azusa now give the most incredible words of knowledge. Here’s a link to the youtube video of that.youtu.be/kzdjsWjFRU0
of knowledge prior to coming on the stage on his phone.I remember Peter Popoff but Bolz is not a fraud. Seen him up close and without prior knowledge give accurate words.I had Mario Murillo in my church earlier this year. I was sorry I invited him frankly but he did the same thing. The words he got and gave were nothing short of remarkable and it ministered to my people but his attitude was offensive.
The problem I have is that these so called prophets are for rent.In scripture a prophet is usually in solitude & only comes out to give a report from God, heed a warning or reveal a secret.Nowadays we have these so called prophets wiling to come to a church for financial gain & they’ll use their gift? to work the crowd.I was at a large event (2,000+) with a pastor friend once when Kim Clement called my friend up on stage & spoke a specific word over him & his church. He had only told me a few days prior about a property the church needed to sell but he was concerned about the dollar amount & the terms.Clement is in no way whatsoever one of my ideas of an accurate prophet but that night it was as if he read my friends private mail. He went home, met with the buyer, agreed to the terms & it went smooth as it could. There are many who probably have the gift but like so many other ministers they abuse the office for self gain & at times they pay the price.________________Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!Email me at: [email protected] planters are focused on just one thing …introducing people to Jesus!
I have seen the abuse first hand. Had my mail read and my church fleeced! Nay, not again though!!!I believe there are still prophets around, but the true ones (true to the Savior) don’t run the circuit.
Dean, I’m coming out of solitude to reveal a secret to you:I’m seeing in the spirit a small entity near you with a large internet presence. This entity makes merchandise of selling ordinations, doctorates, etc. I see in the spirit, I believe it is a U, an L, an a C. Yes, that is it, ULC. Does this mean anything to you? It means you need another topic haha________________Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!Email me at: [email protected] planters are focused on just one thing …introducing people to Jesus!
Don’t stop there. What about those evangelists who go to meetings and leave with a cash offering and actually hope to go preach a circuit and support their families? And what about those pastors out there who use their gifts and get a salary from the church, some of them making over $4000 a month, for standing up and giving a speech once a week, and some other duties which aren’t too clear to the rest of people who don’t do that kind of ministry.What’s wrong if a prophet receives gifts and is in ‘full-time ministry.’ Btw, you paint with a broad brush. Just like there are pastors who work for free or just take whatever is given to them, and evangelists who do the same, there are prophets who do the same. My wife gets prophecies for people at times. There have been times when people gave her money. My wife and I both minister whether we get paid or not. I don’t do this kind of prophetic ministry (yet), beyond the occasional word of knowledge or something along those lines, but I’ve spoken at churches in Indonesia where I tried to refuse money they gave me. They are confused and don’t know what to do, so I’ve asked if they have a missions fund or something like that, and given it to that. I’ve also taken the money because I didn’t want churches to feel disrespected if I didn’t take it. I did that when I was working. Is the way those who minister in words of and prophecy handle money substantially different from the way pastors do it? As far as abuses go, if you’ve seen people try to prophesy money into their pockets, haven’t pastors tried to preach money into the funds they control and are paid out of by condemning the audience, trying to put the audience under their own allegorically interpreted version of the Law of Moses? You can actually look the verses up and demonstrate that some of these interpretations are false, which is harder to do with some of the prophecies________________
The names you listed are enough fer the ole timer, Link. Birds of a feather flock together, an em boys you named is some birds shore nuff. No, I would not invite him to speak even if the executive committee recommended him. What problem do you have with Bill Johnson or Heidi Bakker? I know Bill Johnson is controversial, but I’m not sure what the actual issues are as far as Biblical doctrine is. I know some people don’t like the emphasis on healing, glory clouds, and stuff like that. I also realize that people who I consider to be off in some areas of their doctrine could be used in spiritual gifts________________
Cut and paste did not work out as planned. I changed the OP________________
Well, I’ve listened to a few videos of him while working on something today and this evening, so I don’t know that much about him. But apparently, he was with the Kansas City prophets, has spent time with Heidi Bakker, has had some interaction with Bethel in Redding, CA, and went to some kind of meeting with Rick Joyner and Larry Randolph. So he seems to hang with the ‘prophetic movement’ and ‘signs and wonders movement folks. I’m not saying that would make up my mind for me about inviting him. Let’s say he’d be staying with a friend of yours in Pikeville, and the friend suggested you invite him to speak. Would you________________
From everything I know
Shawn Bolz is the real deal. OTCP won’t like him.because Bill Johnson is his mentor. That would be recommendation enough for me to have him. I also heard him in LA at Azusa now give the most incredible words of knowledge. Here’s a link to the youtube video of that.youtu.be/kzdjsWjFRU0
He had written down the words
of knowledge prior to coming on the stage on his phone.I remember Peter Popoff but Bolz is not a fraud. Seen him up close and without prior knowledge give accurate words.I had Mario Murillo in my church earlier this year. I was sorry I invited him frankly but he did the same thing. The words he got and gave were nothing short of remarkable and it ministered to my people but his attitude was offensive.
The names you listed are enough fer the ole timer, Link. Birds of a feather flock together, an em boys you named is some birds shore nuff.
The problem I have is that these so called prophets are for rent.In scripture a prophet is usually in solitude & only comes out to give a report from God, heed a warning or reveal a secret.Nowadays we have these so called prophets wiling to come to a church for financial gain & they’ll use their gift? to work the crowd.I was at a large event (2,000+) with a pastor friend once when Kim Clement called my friend up on stage & spoke a specific word over him & his church. He had only told me a few days prior about a property the church needed to sell but he was concerned about the dollar amount & the terms.Clement is in no way whatsoever one of my ideas of an accurate prophet but that night it was as if he read my friends private mail. He went home, met with the buyer, agreed to the terms & it went smooth as it could. There are many who probably have the gift but like so many other ministers they abuse the office for self gain & at times they pay the price.________________Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!Email me at: [email protected] planters are focused on just one thing …introducing people to Jesus!
I have seen the abuse first hand. Had my mail read and my church fleeced! Nay, not again though!!!I believe there are still prophets around, but the true ones (true to the Savior) don’t run the circuit.
Dean, I’m coming out of solitude to reveal a secret to you:
Dean, I’m coming out of solitude to reveal a secret to you:I’m seeing in the spirit a small entity near you with a large internet presence. This entity makes merchandise of selling ordinations, doctorates, etc. I see in the spirit, I believe it is a U, an L, an a C. Yes, that is it, ULC. Does this mean anything to you? It means you need another topic haha________________Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!Email me at: [email protected] planters are focused on just one thing …introducing people to Jesus!
Don’t stop there. What about those evangelists who go to meetings and leave with a cash offering and actually hope to go preach a circuit and support their families? And what about those pastors out there who use their gifts and get a salary from the church, some of them making over $4000 a month, for standing up and giving a speech once a week, and some other duties which aren’t too clear to the rest of people who don’t do that kind of ministry.What’s wrong if a prophet receives gifts and is in ‘full-time ministry.’ Btw, you paint with a broad brush. Just like there are pastors who work for free or just take whatever is given to them, and evangelists who do the same, there are prophets who do the same. My wife gets prophecies for people at times. There have been times when people gave her money. My wife and I both minister whether we get paid or not. I don’t do this kind of prophetic ministry (yet), beyond the occasional word of knowledge or something along those lines, but I’ve spoken at churches in Indonesia where I tried to refuse money they gave me. They are confused and don’t know what to do, so I’ve asked if they have a missions fund or something like that, and given it to that. I’ve also taken the money because I didn’t want churches to feel disrespected if I didn’t take it. I did that when I was working. Is the way those who minister in words of and prophecy handle money substantially different from the way pastors do it? As far as abuses go, if you’ve seen people try to prophesy money into their pockets, haven’t pastors tried to preach money into the funds they control and are paid out of by condemning the audience, trying to put the audience under their own allegorically interpreted version of the Law of Moses? You can actually look the verses up and demonstrate that some of these interpretations are false, which is harder to do with some of the prophecies________________
The names you listed are enough fer the ole timer, Link. Birds of a feather flock together, an em boys you named is some birds shore nuff. No, I would not invite him to speak even if the executive committee recommended him. What problem do you have with Bill Johnson or Heidi Bakker? I know Bill Johnson is controversial, but I’m not sure what the actual issues are as far as Biblical doctrine is. I know some people don’t like the emphasis on healing, glory clouds, and stuff like that. I also realize that people who I consider to be off in some areas of their doctrine could be used in spiritual gifts________________
What problem do you have with Bill Johnson? Cereal Saints!
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What do you think about this one? This one is a tear jerker.www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDKuhZLUZ74________________
Phone words:books.google.co.id/books?id=43mDfVbZvdQC&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=midrash+speaking+in+tongues&source=bl&ots=F_azDHsA3o&sig=JKDjJPLZjszyLRwsZE5tCXbuJbE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjFrJaGrZPRAhVBt48KHQUcA5wQ6AEIGzAA#v=onepage&q=midrash&f=false________________