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Ephesians 5:18-maybe________________“Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”

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  1. A command to be filled, no doubt. But an imperative to receive the Spirit? I’m finding it harder and harder to defend our assertion that people should receive the Holy Spirit

  2. This used to be painted on the wall left of the stage in the old Wimauma tabernacle:Acts 19:2Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed?Aaron Scott – what was painted on the other side________________

  3. Of course, anyone familiar with the development of classical Pentecostal doctrine knows that our doctrine of the baptism in the Spirit is primarily based on the narrative accounts in the Book of Acts, and that the epistles were written to believers who had already received the baptism. One also doesn’t find direct appeals to be born again in the epistles for the same reason, but that doesn’t negate the validity or necessity of regeneration.That said, Galatians 4:6is at least consistent with a subsequence of reception of the Spirit following regeneration: Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.” May I highly recommend an excellent book by a non-Pentecostal, (a Calvinist, even!) who came to affirm a subsequence to the reception of the baptism in the Holy Spirit after regeneration? http://www.amazon.com/Joy-Unspeakable-Power-Renewal-Spirit/dp/0877884412

  4. This is my primary concern. Acts is a narrative book. Luke is not setting forth imperatives for the New Testament church. There are plenty of things in Acts that are not normative. Even in the Acts narratives there are diversities in how people received the Holy Spirit. In Acts 2they are sitting down when tongues of fire appeared. In Acts 8there is no mention of tongues at all but they received by the laying on of hands of the Apostles. In Acts 10the Holy Spirit fell upon those listening to Peter’s sermon. In Acts 19there are tongues

  5. The difference is between the gift of tongues and the evidence of tongues.The gift of tongues requires an interpretation.The evidence of tongues does not________________Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church

  6. 1 Corinthians 14:1Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.While this does not say to pray for the Holy Ghost, I am confident that desiring spiritual gifts–especially prophecy–has an element of prayer. If we would pray for these gifts of the Spirit, it seems logical….Philippians 4:6Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

  7. This is my primary concern. Acts is a narrative book. Luke is not setting forth imperatives for the New Testament church. There are plenty of things in Acts that are not normative. Even in the Acts narratives there are diversities in how people received the Holy Spirit. In Acts 2they are sitting down when tongues of fire appeared. In Acts 8there is no mention of tongues at all but they received by the laying on of hands of the Apostles. In Acts 10the Holy Spirit fell upon those listening to Peter’s sermon. In Acts 19there are tongues

  8. Nature Boy Florida, there was something there, if I recall, but I didn’t take the sneaky way onto or off the stage but maybe a half-dozen times in 20+ years of back-to-back attendance. Although I’m confident that you snuck in a few times after loitering around the back instead of being inside–WHERE I WAS–and where the Lord was moving. It’s a shame.

  9. This is my primary concern. Acts is a narrative book. Luke is not setting forth imperatives for the New Testament church. There are plenty of things in Acts that are not normative. Even in the Acts narratives there are diversities in how people received the Holy Spirit. In Acts 2they are sitting down when tongues of fire appeared. In Acts 8there is no mention of tongues at all but they received by the laying on of hands of the Apostles. In Acts 10the Holy Spirit fell upon those listening to Peter’s sermon. In Acts 19there are tongues