Re: I thought the Church had settled the gay question nature/nurture
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Help me out with some context, when you say the Church are you using it in the broader Evangelical since (born-again believers) or in the denominational since, as in Churches of God (Cleveland, TN)? So, who is where again on this issues? What statement are you addressing?
The church can decide that homosexual behavior is wrong, but the church can’t decide that sexual preference is a matter of simply nurture if there are in fact other factors involved.To say God wouldn’t allow someone to be born with a same sex attraction would be like saying God wouldn’t allow a man to be born with a propensity for promiscuity or that God wouldn’t allow someone to be born with a genetic anomaly.
Would it mess up your theology if we found out there is a biological (say pre-birth exposure to agricultural chemicals or to hormones) component or a genetic component to same sex attraction?
I think the Augustinian concept of an inherited ‘sinful nature’ which causes one to sin (aka ‘Original Sin’) certainly fits well with the liberal, modern idea of people being ‘born gay.’
Every human being is born with a genetic predisposition for an obsessive behavior that the Bible defines as sin.It is related to us in the context of the flesh.Everybody’s got something they can’t control through the power of their will.It requires the grace of God to overcome.It is a scientific fact. ________________Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church
I like the black and white, I mean Yes and No questions. When the answers go GREY it confuses us old folk. I believe it is a CHOICE now the reasons for that choice in my mind is u for grabs.Lots of stuff I don’t know, most of the things brought up in comments I do/did not know. I am glad it is not my decision to make for everyone. OUCH!Now Dasheik has just said:I think sometimes we feel such a strong need to “defend Godâ€.
Help me out with some context, when you say the Church are you using it in the broader Evangelical since (born-again believers) or in the denominational since, as in Churches of God (Cleveland, TN)? So, who is where again on this issues? What statement are you addressing?
The church can decide that homosexual behavior is wrong, but the church can’t decide that sexual preference is a matter of simply nurture if there are in fact other factors involved.To say God wouldn’t allow someone to be born with a same sex attraction would be like saying God wouldn’t allow a man to be born with a propensity for promiscuity or that God wouldn’t allow someone to be born with a genetic anomaly.
Would it mess up your theology if we found out there is a biological (say pre-birth exposure to agricultural chemicals or to hormones) component or a genetic component to same sex attraction?
I think the Augustinian concept of an inherited ‘sinful nature’ which causes one to sin (aka ‘Original Sin’) certainly fits well with the liberal, modern idea of people being ‘born gay.’
Great reduction!
Every human being is born with a genetic predisposition for an obsessive behavior that the Bible defines as sin.It is related to us in the context of the flesh.Everybody’s got something they can’t control through the power of their will.It requires the grace of God to overcome.It is a scientific fact. ________________Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church
I like the black and white, I mean Yes and No questions. When the answers go GREY it confuses us old folk. I believe it is a CHOICE now the reasons for that choice in my mind is u for grabs.Lots of stuff I don’t know, most of the things brought up in comments I do/did not know. I am glad it is not my decision to make for everyone. OUCH!Now Dasheik has just said:I think sometimes we feel such a strong need to “defend Godâ€.