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Do you know he supports same sex unions, or are you drawing that from the quote above? The reason I ask that is that the quote above would not in itself lend support necessarily to same sex unions.

We need more evidence/info than that.There are so many gender qualities that are based out of traditions and cultural pressure. In our own culture, if a girl is athletic, outdoor-sy, and prefers pants to a dress– she is a tomboy or ridiculed as something worse. Likewise, a boy that prefers to stay inside, read, play an instrument, cook, etc. is a momma’s boy or labeled as something worse. Women belong in the home. Men should mow the grass. Women should do the laundry. Men should change the oil in the car. Women should clean the bathroom. Men should make more money. Women should make (and take care of) more babies. I have personally listened to, enjoyed and learned to disagree with Shane Claiborne, Leonard Sweet, Brian McLaren, Rob Bell, Tony Campolo and others. I have some major differences with several that I listed and others that I didn’t. One thing that I have appreciated about each of them is that they have made me think and think about what I believe and what I think that I know. This is what University is for. University isn’t a production line for uniformity and group think. University is for building individuals who go back out into various and sundry fields, locations and occupations, creating and innovating, building upon the individuals gifts and strengths and in the process giving the University a reputation of being a destination place for this process to be successfully played out over and over again.It should not threaten us that the world thinks differently than we do. It shouldn’t threaten us that parts of the Body function and think differently than we do. Someone from the stage of the General Council said it very well, our young COG generation has options outside of the COG to be a part of great organizations that are planting churches, doing Mission and making a difference for the Kingdom. I would like for them to stay with us, the COG. We can’t accomplish this by clinching our fists. Thanks to the proliferation of blogs, conferences and digital learning, our people have access to more thinkers and writers than ever before. Standing in our proverbial lawn while shaking a fist to the sky and yelling, Get off my lawn, won’t accomplish anything. Teaching our children that there are views out there different than our own and to engage those views inside and outside the church in the manner that Jesus would is what education is all about. Granted, my degree comes from a large, state University and not from a small, private Christian school but from my perspective, Dr. Conn and Lee University are to be applauded and celebrated for teaching a Christian work-force to think and to engage. Just my honest opinion________________Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8

Easy WEB SEARCH will find his contention Christians and Muslims worship same God…www.patheos.com/blogs/jesuscreed/2015/12/16/the-same-god-12/BELOW….From interview…www.fulcrum-anglican.org.uk/articles/miroslav-volf-faith-and-reconciliation-a-personal-journey/SHORTT: Can you give an example of how the Qur’an has enlarged your view of God?VOLF: In the famous Surah 112, it is written, ‘Say, He is Allah, The One and Only; Allah the Eternal the Absolute; He begetteth not, Nor is He begotten; And there is None Like unto Him. ’As I read the text, I could have immediately focused on what looks like a negation of trinitarianism. And no doubt that is also what a Christian theologian needs to do when faced with this Surah. Instead, what struck me in the text was how exalted, unique and absolute Allah is represented as being. In some recent Christian theology God has often been reduced to the status of a companion or buddy, ‘who understands and shares our pain’. As I was reading the text I was reminded of how irreverent this kind of talk can be. You might say I did not need the Qur’an to remind me of that; biblical talk of God’s holiness and God’s dwelling in ‘inapproachable light’ could have done the same. And yet it was the Qur’an that reminded me of the absolute uniqueness of the God whom I worship as a Christian________________

Wonder of majority COG folks in pew would see the mission of their institutions in this same perspective — unfortunately they are clueless to the theological declension of Lee and PTS that has devolved over past 25 years________________

Thanks. No the quote I used does not have him stating that.But there are numerous places — his book on Allah — where he states such with phrase significantly similar. What brought to my attention was his defense of the Wheaton College prof who was fired because of her contention that Muslims and Christians worship same God.I would look at his debate on Ravi Zacharias site where he defended his view against a Muslim convert contending Christians do not.Here is one link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jesuscreed/2015/12/16/the-same-god-12/________________

Thanks. No the quote I used does not have him stating that.But there are numerous places — his book on Allah — where he states such with phrase significantly similar. What brought to my attention was his defense of the Wheaton College prof who was fired because of her contention that Muslims and Christians worship same God.I would look at his debate on Ravi Zacharias site where he defended his view against a Muslim convert contending Christians do not.Here is one link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jesuscreed/2015/12/16/the-same-god-12/ I will check it out. Thank you________________Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8

Wonder of majority COG folks in pew would see the mission of their institutions in this same perspective — unfortunately they are clueless to the theological declension of Lee and PTS that has devolved over past 25 years. Where I live, not one person on the pew is a COG folk. Granted, I’m not in the SE US. I teach COG doctrine and I/we support COG events/programs but outside of me, my spouse and our children’s pastor, they’d be Independent tomorrow. They don’t dislike what they’ve learned about the COG, they just don’t feel loyalty to any denomination. They are great people. We’ve been together for six years. It is what it is. They are former Athiests, Assemblies of God, Baptists, Catholics, Church of Christ, Episcopalians, Heathens, Independents, Jehovah Witnesses, Lutherans, Methodists, and others. They just love Jesus and each other. So they’d be in whatever percentage of people that wouldn’t know or care as long as it is following Jesus and on Mission________________Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8

Based on the folks you quote, I understand where you are coming from. I actually chose the names of the people I disagree with the most and that make me the most uncomfortable– but that have made me think. I actually prefer to quote Jesus________________Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8

I appreciate your concern even if I don’t see or know enough to agree with it.Do you have a student at Lee?Have you spoken to administration about your concerns________________Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8

I am a COG — alumnus of seminary. Yes, students at Lee________________