Roy Moore is just another Hillary Clinton.The only way their party loses is if Roy/Hillary runs________________
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Re: Luther Strange defeats Doug Jones in AL special election, 62-37
Re: Luther Strange defeats Doug Jones in AL special election, 62-37
This just goes to show how naïve you are. It would not have mattered if Strange had been the nominee and it won’t matter who the nominee is in 2 years. Women will be coming out of the woodwork. Moore lost because Shelby and McConnell want Trump impeached and his agenda defeated. Shelby was behind the write-in candidate________________
This just goes to show how naïve you are. It would not have mattered if Strange had been the nominee and it won’t matter who the nominee is in 2 years. Women will be coming out of the woodwork. Moore lost because Shelby and McConnell want Trump impeached and his agenda defeated. Shelby was behind the write-in candidate. Moore lost because his campaign was awful. Moore lost because he under performed. He lost because he is not the legend he thinks he is…….. in his last statewide election he under performed. Shelby was not behind a write in candidate.
Re: Luther Strange defeats Doug Jones in AL special election, 62-37
Roy Moore didn’t stand up to liberal government overreach, he stood up to the Constitution. But that doesn’t even really matter. In the Senate, Roy Moore and Luther Strange would have voted the same way 999 out of 1,000 times. Alabamans got hoodwinked by Bannon and the alt-right, who continually use whatever influence they have to highlight and promote anti-establishment candidates. They worked very hard to paint Strange as a McConnell ally and clone, it worked, and last night was the fruit of that.
You’re kind of being a jerk, FYI. I realize you’re upset about the result, but your responses since the election last night have been unnecessarily personal.Please remember that this is a Christian forum and that it is expected that posters will treat each other with kindness and respect, even when there are intense disagreements.
Dave,Can you please show us in the Constitution where putting the 10 commandments in a courthouse is against the law?It doesn’t matter anymore I guess. I would agree that Strange would have been the better candidate, Trump certainly thought so as well (though he’ll get no credit for that I’m sure).
Sure. Glassroth v. Moore was based on a violation of the Establishment Clause, though I suspect you might write that off in that case (not without reason) given that the prohibition of the Establishment Clause is on Congress, rather than the Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. I would suggest the Sixth Amendment is a more proximate response for originalists, specifically its guarantee of an impartial jury of the State or district where a crime was committed. Moore installed the monument in the middle of the night without having consulted or received the consent of his fellow justices. That’s not okay. He’s not a martyr for his Pyhrric, self-serving refusal to remove it. Rulings against the monument were unanimous at every level, yet Moore placed himself above the law.
Sure. Glassroth v. Moore was based on a violation of the Establishment Clause, though I suspect you might write that off in that case (not without reason) given that the prohibition of the Establishment Clause is on Congress, rather than the Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. I would suggest the Sixth Amendment is a more proximate response for originalists, specifically its guarantee of an impartial jury of the State or district where a crime was committed. Moore installed the monument in the middle of the night without having consulted or received the consent of his fellow justices. That’s not okay. He’s not a martyr for his Pyhrric, self-serving refusal to remove it. Rulings against the monument were unanimous at every level, yet Moore placed himself above the law.Imagine you were going before a judge in Dearborn, MI who did the same thing in regard to an article from the Muslim faith. Imagine going into a courthouse that had a 2.5-ton monument with writings from the Koran prominently placed right outside the door. Honestly, how would you feel about that?
If that’s what it takes to allow the majority Christian population to do the same, then sure, I think that would improve things in our country don’t you? That threat has been the prevailing argument for every time we ran God out of schools, courts, government buildings, public places, streets, you name it.
No, I don’t agree that anyone with the power of the state should be able to run roughshod over others with their beliefs. I would not want someone who viewed their state power as a means of imposing their personal faith onto others judging me in a civil or criminal case. But I do appreciate the intellectual honesty and consistency of your reply.
Its another argument that ended free practice of religion in the public arena, in particular the courts (in which I see a violation of the first amendment btw). I don’t see how praying or posting one of the oldest examples of written law in existence poses a threat to anyone at all. Maybe a case could be made for the former (though I’d disagree), but not against the later.
You’re kind of being a jerk, FYI. I realize you’re upset about the result, but your responses since the election last night have been unnecessarily personal.Please remember that this is a Christian forum and that it is expected that posters will treat each other with kindness and respect, even when there are intense disagreements.As an example, you could have phrased your comment above as I think it’s naive to suggest… and you could have communicated the same thing without being personal and unkind. How am I supposed to take you seriously? You are the one who keeps insinuating how unchristian it is for some of us to support Trump. I do not care how Christian and kind you might say it, it is still a personal attack against us. So please spare me the sermon, brother.But for the record, I’ve moved on. Too many battles in the present and future to cry over one loss. The war rages on________________
Please consider my previous post a formal warning concerning your style of posting over the last several days. How you choose to take that is up to you.
Some info about the monument Moore placed: On top it had the 10 commandments. On all sides it had many quotes from founding fathers which went far beyond anything Moore ever said or did concerning their beliefs about the debt this nation owes its true creator.We were not founded upon atheism. We were not founded upon Islamic law. ALL our principles, including the one you use in the above quote are founded in Judeo-Christian law. (Deut 19:15et al, 2 Cor 13:1, 1 Tim 5:19, Matt 18:16<<words of Christ himself) Why do you accept the charge of one person against our brother, ignoring the specifics of her charge being demonstrably false, and the comparison of her character to that of Judge Moore over the next 38 years which weigh incredibly heavy in his favor? Why? Why do YOU not follow the fundamental that you require of others in that quote at the top of this post?The first amendment means what it says, no specific religion is to be a test of citizenship or is to be a state religion. But that doesn’t mean that elected citizens have to abandon their faith, or in this case, deny that our laws came from whence they came.Ignoring the fact mentioned earlier, that the Chief Justice of the Ala Supreme court is not equal to and does not have the powers of the congress (Congress shall make no law), Judge Myron Thompson, appointed by Jimmy Carter, who alone issued the order to remove the monument, refused to answer 2 major questions: If it had violated the establishment clause, then what LAW had Judge Moore made? Which religion does it establish?It didn’t. Christians keep only 9 of the 10, substituting the Lord’s day for the Sabbath and mostly not applying the Sabbath rules even to it. If Roy Moore was saying the 10 cammandments WERE LAW, then it was a LAW he himself did not completely follow. Roy Moore was not in violation of the 1st amendment, he was dead in line with the right afforded by it, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Judge Thompson is the one who violated the 1st amendment!This all came from an unhappy liberal Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) legal team, who lost in a trial before circuit Judge Moore in the Etowah County courthouse, who filed this same suit against him at that time, because he had a wooden plaque of the 10 commandments on the wall of the courtroom. They lost again. This propelled Moore into the Chief Justice office, because the people of Alabama liked it when a man would take a stand.But the left didn’t like it. And the republican backroom blue bloods didn’t like it that he had replaced their boy that they controlled.Sound familiar? (Luther Strange)One unelected Federal judge issued a ruling inconsistent with the constitution. Some unelected crooked politicians removed Roy Moore without ever charging him with anything at all.But a lot of lies were told then, that continue to be told and repeated long after being exposed. Lies being repeated here. And in politics, that does make a good man a bad candidate.When he was again chosen by the people to be the Chief Justice, I challenged him to make a plaque this time and hang it over the entrance to the State Courthouse, with these words:
If rights are not given by a Supreme being – then we really have nothing to appeal to.I am no Roy Moore fan – but acknowledging a creator is the basis for moral laws. It should be the basis for all judicial rulings.Our Founders knew this.MLK knew this.But – today, America doesn’t know this________________