Yep there are times……….. That someone feels, ‘no one has their back.’ And then there times when something should not be said.All that said as a rule all leaders desire support from those under him, and it is a fact
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Yep there are times……….. That someone feels, ‘no one has their back.’ And then there times when something should not be said.All that said as a rule all leaders desire support from those under him, and it is a fact
Which state are you in________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
I have heard about this from a couple of different ministers who were basically forced to surrender their credentials. Really sad..________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name
That is satanic in my opinion bordering on mind control or witchcraft. But that does nothing to foster mutual respect and trust.In all honesty someone who endeavors to lead like this has learned this leadership style via leaders he has worked under.On a personal emotional note, I don’t like bullies and have never thought twice about standing up to them. Even if you lose, you’re still a winner. Turn the lights brightly on roaches like this________________
This might be a fake post.Several have asked the anonymous poster what state he’s referring to & so far nothing but silence. Here in Calif. our AB (Sean O’Neil) is always looking for ways to build up the body of churches & ministers. The OP talks like their AB is living in 1965 & the state overseer is a feared man who might yank your church out from underneath you.If he threatens you too much tell him you’re going to call the EC & report him for unethical threats. Raise a little cain & tell him God called you to your post …not an AB! Nothing (other than a moral/ethical offense) says you have to leave your church, step down from the pulpit, surrender your creds or give up your building. Call your state board members, call other pastors, call the PB’s office, make some waves if you’re in good standing but don’t just take it laying down. ________________Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!Email me at: [email protected] planters are focused on just one thing …introducing people to Jesus!
You are making the problem worse
If you tell the State we will know which AB to avoid.There are many at HQ that read this board and they need to know.This would be the only forum to tell your story without any retribution.Also, there are many great State AB’s that are being tainted by your comments that have nothing to do with this post.
One Florida pastor walked into the overseer’s office (I don’t recall which one), put a chair under the doorknob, reached across the desk and let the overseer know that the overseer was going to do the right thing…or else.The pastor in question was a former Outlaws enforcer. I heard everything worked out well.
Re: You are making the problem worse
WOW!!!MI6, you have THAT kind of power or authority to say that THIS FORUM, is protected well enough that if the State in question is mentioned and AdamJ was revealed, because of something he has said; that You or HQ will protect him?Com’On man!!! What fantasy world do you live in?________________
WOW!!!MI6, you have THAT kind of power or authority to say that THIS FORUM, is protected well enough that if the State in question is mentioned and AdamJ was revealed, because of something he has said; that You or HQ will protect him?Com’On man!!! What fantasy world do you live in?? This is the reason why anonymity is allowed. If he said, The AB in my state which is —— is a tyrant and ousts anyone who doesn’t support him. His name is Bishop ——-. You can’t work with him.How long would it take to figure out the original posters identity. The tough question is why do men who are poor at being an AB continue to get appointed?Want to know why?The same reason pastors who have torn up multiple churches keep getting appointed to good churches. There is a system and network in place. Either work with it and within it, or you’ll be forced to make your own way________________
is this the overseer who sold 3 cleveland churches ________________
We have sold tons of Churches, but none in a city named Cleveland. Selling churches is how we support the state office.
What! Tyrannical leaders in the COG?
Tyrannical leaders in the COG? I thought you boys fixed that problem when you got rid of AJT and tried to sue him in court for all he was worth. How could that lordly spirit be in the COG these days? Maybe that’s what the judge awarded the COG in court. Some of you guys kill me, you want the security of a denomination and you talk about the importance of elections and term limits, but when its you in the cross-hairs of authority, then its tyranny of authority.
So is the Illinois overseer hard to work with________________Hate to say it, but its trueNew Orleans Bred, Mississippi Led, Hopefully Arizona will be home before I’m dead.
I’ve heard some pretty bad things about him!