If it is for my private use in purchasing minister supplies and ministry reimbursement expenditures then yes to both, and it is legal as both.
Again, Charles
Are you coaching from the cheap seats?
I had a church financial and tax specializing attorney check it out and I am just fine.
good management says there should be one account with all money coming accountability from one account. we kept a miscellaneous fun $200 for day to day expenses. This fund was held by the church clerk. We were a small church and this fund was carried from month to month. You won’t find better management than that.
Lol, old days Charles, old days.
All funds go into the main account then are redistributed to the ledger accounts or the money’s coming in are not truly 501c3 tax exempt.
Once they are in the ledger accounts they are as if their own funds.
7 column ledger, general account disburses to other accounts.
Aka youth fund raiser paid to church memo youth. Money placed in general account then check from general written to youth acct and then money deposited into youth account.
The money can’t go straight into the youth account.
And even with a check, there must be an accompanying document like a giving envelope.
No Charles
That will get a 501c3 status revolked.
General funds, general giving can be used as seen fit.
Designated giving must go as specified.
I give my (over and above the tithes and offerings) to a pastors fund.
As such only the pastor can control it.
Since it is in the church it is for ministry supply purchases and expense reimbursement.
The member can’t Charles.
Only the leadership of the body can call for the police and have a person removed.
The action at that moment that can legally be taken by the member is to leave (walk out).
The Church is legally considered a private organization and can govern itself. They have the right and say so in what they do, who they allow, etc,.
Now if the body is not run by the minutes and bylaws then they can do something legally – later (but not at the time of offense during service/meetings).
And, it is not just members that can get this financial information, but anyone donating and giving to the church is legally entitled to it.
To the OP:
So Charles
Are you advocating for prearranged marriages inorder to get back to the “letter” of the New Testament and it’s customs, not just the principles?
Then are you ruling out marriages based on mutual love?
If it is for my private use in purchasing minister supplies and ministry reimbursement expenditures then yes to both, and it is legal as both.
Again, Charles
Are you coaching from the cheap seats?
I had a church financial and tax specializing attorney check it out and I am just fine.
Appearance from the nosebleeds is distorted.
no, not a specializing tax attorney, but an IRS tax auditor.
good management says there should be one account with all money coming accountability from one account. we kept a miscellaneous fun $200 for day to day expenses. This fund was held by the church clerk. We were a small church and this fund was carried from month to month. You won’t find better management than that.
David Lewayne Porter, It doesn’t concern you that 100,000 was given from local church funds to build a million dollar banking institution?
Lol, old days Charles, old days.
All funds go into the main account then are redistributed to the ledger accounts or the money’s coming in are not truly 501c3 tax exempt.
Once they are in the ledger accounts they are as if their own funds.
7 column ledger, general account disburses to other accounts.
Aka youth fund raiser paid to church memo youth. Money placed in general account then check from general written to youth acct and then money deposited into youth account.
The money can’t go straight into the youth account.
And even with a check, there must be an accompanying document like a giving envelope.
No! U just don’t get it how the cog today functions.
This is why money given to the General headquarters designated to your ministry may not go to you at all.
No Charles
That will get a 501c3 status revolked.
General funds, general giving can be used as seen fit.
Designated giving must go as specified.
I give my (over and above the tithes and offerings) to a pastors fund.
As such only the pastor can control it.
Since it is in the church it is for ministry supply purchases and expense reimbursement.
Tell the member to mail a request to the pastor by registered mail and then notify the S O about this
Tell them to keep attending and if there is abusive treatment verbal or physical call the police
No Its Impossible
The member can’t Charles.
Only the leadership of the body can call for the police and have a person removed.
The action at that moment that can legally be taken by the member is to leave (walk out).
The Church is legally considered a private organization and can govern itself. They have the right and say so in what they do, who they allow, etc,.
Now if the body is not run by the minutes and bylaws then they can do something legally – later (but not at the time of offense during service/meetings).
And, it is not just members that can get this financial information, but anyone donating and giving to the church is legally entitled to it.
To the OP:
So Charles
Are you advocating for prearranged marriages inorder to get back to the “letter” of the New Testament and it’s customs, not just the principles?
Then are you ruling out marriages based on mutual love?
no but I do advocate to a prearranged salvation based on a a unilateral covenant.
Agree, provided you mean God drawing us as we use our freewill inorder to accept it on an individual and personal level as He designed it.