As of today……Trump: 987Plus at least 150 from California and 51 from New Jersey. That’s 1188.That leaves 49 still needed.He has more coming from Pennsylvania. He will win some in West Virginia and Indiana.He will have more than 1237 going into the convention.This race is over________________
Does any of this have anything to do with what ‘bishop’ refers to in the Bible? Isn’t a pastor of a local church a ‘bishop’ in the Biblical sense? Why all the hubub over the title and not the substance?
No has to do with certain women wanting to have their way over the majority wants. They just want to be as the most high
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Resign away. What a ridiculous argument. Grown men misusing scripture because women threaten them.
women threatening men to misuse scripture is more like it!!!
Men are scared of the women!
It has been said that a nation is a group of people united by a common misconception about their racial/ethnic/historic origins….the same could be said about those insisting God has imbued the male gender with the latent mantle of leadership in the church, and calling that “biblical”…it’s “biblical” in that the Bible is being misused in the endeavor, but it’s still a misconception; still a fundamental misunderstanding of why Christ came, lived, died, was raised from the dead, ascended, and gave us all gifts..and it wasn’t for the sake of men and women being ensconced in the patriarchy you envision, Charles! “There is therefore now no male or female in Christ!” We haven’t even begun in any meaningful way to explore what that means, but I cringe at the thought of what awaits those that have thwarted the ministry gifts of God over a person’s genitalia!
Gregory Aslan Chopoorian I have heard this ad nausium , we did not write the bible but Paul did. Take it up with him. I am tired of the threats from their side about holding women down! “But I cringe at the thought of what awaits those that have thwarted the ministry gifts..” Really!?! The ONLY thing women are restricted from is Senior Church Leadership. They are Pastors,Evangilist, Prophets, praise leaders, teachers! Anything, they Sit on state boards which by the was most men who are not Bishops don’t get to do. In NO WAY AT ALL are women restricted from ministry gifts and it’s a lie and disingenuous to claim otherwise. Why are women wanting what GOD said they should not do? Unless it’s that reason because God said don’t do it? Sounds familiar a little bit. The sanctimonious derision that the so called egalitarian side has for anyone who would DARE disagree is wrong on so many levels. I have read same chapters in the Greek and Hebrew and I know what it says. 62% shot it down and still keeps being brought up again and again! Do you really think that will persuade me to go against what God said? In that case you all have the misconceptions.
The entire political systems of denominational hierarchy tends to thwart ministries of both male and female who try to please those over them in man-made structures. I find little biblical support for the way the American Church (including the COG) has evolved. This is a problem with essentially all denominations over time.
Charles Page are you a Baptist as stated on your FB profile?
Women being Ordained Bishops is not on the agenda for GA 2016. I read through the agenda many times and it is not there. Where are you getting this faulty information.
There is on the agenda voting for Ordained ministers (used to be called Licensed ministers and definitely not Ordained Bishops) to be part of the General Council at GA.
It is not that the men are threatened.
I just want a lady to explain how they can discount the verses on male headship and bishops yet still hold firm to other scriptures by the same author.
Seems double minded to me.
And how will they if he passes on the first round? At that point denying him will be the same as flipping off the voters________________
And how will they if he passes on the first round? At that point denying him will be the same as flipping off the voters.
I have no idea if you are right of wrong, In a way I certainly hope you are right and the GOP realizes this, TRIES TO PULL THE PARTY TOPGETHER and gets behind the man. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE HILLARY AS PRESIDENT. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
If Trump were president, he would probably do something about the border, and he’d probably decrease Mu ham mad an immigration. He’d probably take a stand when Christian groups are severely persecuted, and do something about ISIS. We may end up with a more protectionist trade policy. He’d probably pressure the Chinese to not devalue their currency. They could retaliate by selling off our t-bills cheap and really devaluing our currency way too much if they wanted to hurt us, but that may not be in their best interest to do so. The downside is children and the rest of the country having an example who engages in name-calling and bullying behavior. So let’s pray for him that he’ll get convicted about that and actually ask for forgiveness from God. I’d rather have Trump that Hillary________________
Lose/Lose scenario, might as well let him have it, wish him luck and go back to the drawing-board for 2020.
And how will they if he passes on the first round? At that point denying him will be the same as flipping off the voters.