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John 16:21A woman, when she is in labor, has sorrow because her hour has come; but as soon as she has given birth to the child, she no longer remembers the

David Wilkerson or Seeker Friendly: Who is Hearing From God?

I am not one to ask others to read books, listen to videos etc. My time is almost always reading the Bible but I will listen to a teaching when driving, doing mundane administrative work etc. THIS VIDEO IS WORTH 7 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME. It was sent to me about a month ago and I was going to get around posting it but thank you Dave for beating me to it. Often when at prayer meetings I feel a sense of urgency and anguish in my spirit for the lost and also for the church in America (God will judge who is saved).I like to deal with reality and try to be humble in speaking the truth in love. Often in the ministry one may choose the easy way and avoid conflict rather than dealing with the facts. We all know David Wilkerson had a very negative opinion about the seeker friendly movement.I challenge anybody and ask your opinion to consider two factors here. I have been around both camps on a personal level (those pastors, churches and people preaching the David Wilkerson philosophy of ministry versus the seeker friendly model).Question 1: Which group of people has more passion to pursue and prioritize holiness, prayer, fasting and Bible reading in their personal lives? I am talking about facts here from my personal experience. Which mature Christians from either camp enjoy discussing the Word of God in our personal fellowship times versus talking about sports, entertainment, politics etc? Which group is more likely to be excited when we call for times of intercessory prayer for souls without teaching, music etc?2. Listen to David Wilkerson here or in any random You Tube sermon then listen to the popular seeker friendly preachers. Who do you discern has the anointing and presence of God in their ministry? Hopefully all pastors pray and search the Word for their messages but who do you discern has spent quality time with Him in prayer and the Word?

In the first place, there are no seekers out there. Romans 3is clear that there is none who seek after God. They might be seeking some spiritual high or enlightenment, but they are not seeking the God of the Bible. Thus they must be shown their sin by the Law to cause them to sigh and pant after the righteousness that is only found in Christ

You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.Jeremiah 29:13The verse you quoted above says all have turned aside as in our sin nature. No one could approach God because all were sinners.

You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.Jeremiah 29:13The verse you quoted above says all have turned aside as in our sin nature. No one could approach God because all were sinners. Now, thanks to the Cross, we can seek him with all our heart. I agree. But all I am saying is that most of these seekers we are trying orient everything around are not seeking God. Rather they are seeking an experience. They are much like the rich young ruler