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There have been posts on the board about post election fears, children afraid,etc.My struggle is understanding the basis of this fear.I admit, I'm apparently a deplorable. I voted Cruz in the primary, Trump in the general election. So no, he is not my first choice, but he seemed the most endearing to evangelical concerns (abortion, religous freedoms, etc).That being said, I don't get the trauma associated with his election.To me, if a person is in the country legally then there is no basis for fear.

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I need the same explanation. I just read a quote from a CEO who said her employees were scared to death, so nervous they can't work. WOW I just do not understand it.I think most folk know the WALL will not be built and 20 million will not be deported. Just like Hillary's free college would not have come about! Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

From what I'm seeing, there is a lot of bullying and taunting going on, where Latinos and others are being told You're going to be deported... Children going home in tears, terrified that it is going to affect them...a lot of nastiness happening. People on the more liberal side responding in anger to those who voted for Trump and telling their children they can't be friends with people who voted for Trump. This happened to a friend of mine. I'm reading about a lot of people being beat up and harrassed and treated poorly. It's sad.Children aren't responsible for decisions their parents made, but it directly affects them. There are some really fine people here who are undocumented but made bad decisions many years ago.And what I'm also reading is that Trump only wants to deport those who are illegal criminals More of Him...less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name

Out of all of the posters here I do not want to come across as crass & indifferent towards anybody here who is seeing, hearing, reading or witnessing these multiple accounts of trauma fueled by fear.I live in a border state, a border state where people come across illegally every day pretty much. I live in a town where the hispanic population is nearly the majority & we have sections of town, several square blocks each where the known illegals live. We minister to them every single week 3 times a week. They do have a fear ...they fear immigration, not Trump.But they have feared immigration for years. The first 5 years we started our street ministry to them they thought it was an immigration trick to round up the illegals, they're very suspicious & they don't trust anybody. I am around them & their children daily & I have not heard of a single incident involving irregular harassment, intimidation or rumors of fear.We still do a lot of business in Fresno & Bakersfield & the minority populations are pretty much the same with the exception of Fresno which has an excessive amount of hispanics & illegals compared to many of the Central California cities. If there was even a chance that this thing was blowing up & the rumors were saying that immigration is cracking down & sweeping the neighborhoods, believe me it would be socially devastating here in the San Joaquin Valley.The fact of the matter is people have gone about their normal lives & the Tuesday Flea Market last week was just as crowded as it usually is.Many of the people here are keeping their paperwork in order & taking advantage of any loop hole in the immigration network.

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Dean, have you not read the thread Tom Sterbens started about PTS? That sounds like a pretty reliable account to me from Jackie Johns.The culture in CA is much different than the culture here in the South. Because you are not seeing it there does not mean it is not happening here. Telling someone to go back to Mexico and come back through Ellis Island is pretty harsh, IMHO. That process can take years. Do you separate the families that have children who are Americans or do they take their children back to a way of life that is very far removed from what they have always known, where it is almost impossible to earn a decent wage More of Him...less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name

How would that be enforced? Would it involve detainment centers? Would it mean families are split up or are the children shipped back as well? Hopefully U S is kind enough to ship whole families together- Crazy to leave kids by themselves.Breaking the law costs everyone

Let those who are here illegally stay without wanting to become legal citizens?

It's simple. They can go on working and providing for their family as long as they are under the radar, but if they want to become legal, they may end up being deported, unless there is some kind of amnesty provided.